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DoorDash, UberEats, and Grubhub sue New York City over a new $18 an hour minimum wage for delivery drivers (www.businessinsider.com)
submitted 2 years ago by MicroWave to c/technology
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[–] breadsmasher 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How does this change flexibility? If you’re online to drive, you get paid. If you don’t, you won’t get paid.

Am I missing something?

[–] MicroWave 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

From the article:

"They shouldn't have done this," Mendes told Insider. "Now they'll make us work whenever they want. Even though we're not employees, they're going to schedule us."

But also from the article:

Yet, many drivers pushed for the minimum wage, including the worker collective Los Deliveristas Unidos, who also advocated for recent laws that allow drivers to use restaurant restrooms and set delivery perimeters. One reason they advocate for higher wages is to cover the costs of gig work, such as vehicle repair, gas, tolls, and injuries. A 2022 report by the city found that delivery workers have high rates of injury while on the job.

[–] breadsmasher 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It they are scheduled then they’re employees, no?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As I recall, the basic differences between employee and contractor are whether the employer can dictate time, place, and manner. The problem for gig "contractors" is that they're in a much tougher spot on exercising their rights, since not many people who can afford a lawyer deliver food. And they aren't exactly in short supply, so if Uber oversteps and individual "contractors" try to push back, they'll just be fired. Which gets back to the lawyer issue.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Uber, etc are very much a large enough targets for a class action lawsuit to force a behavior change.

(As an aside, I just got $137 back from the Yahoo class action suit, most I've ever seen from one)

[–] GnothiSeauton 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My understanding is that they are only getting paid the minimum wage while they are actively servicing an order. If they are online but waiting for something to come in they don't get anything.

[–] breadsmasher 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thats how it works today. The article discusses a law change where they are paid hourly for just being online to accept orders. So if you are waiting for an hour, even without an order, you need to be paid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

What happens if a driver chooses to be online for all 3 delivery services simultaneously? Is there some sort of SLA for deliveries per hour? Seems like it might be a pretty decent gig if not.