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Can you link me some reading material about this?
I've never once heard Israel come up in the story of 9/11
Sure! Here is Osama Bin Laden's letter "To the American People."
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ubl2016/english/To%20the%20American%20people.pdf
"As for us, our Iraq was invaded in response to pressure from capitalists with greed for black gold, and you continue to support the oppressive Israelis in their occupation of our Palestine in response to pressures on your administration by a Jewish lobby backed by enormous financial capabilities."
"They threw hundreds of thousands of soldiers against us and have formed an alliance with the Israelis to oppress us and occupy our land; that was the reason for our response on the eleventh."
It's sad how in 2024, Americans still don't know about this. He made it very clear with no room for ambiguity.
It went viral on tiktok awhile ago, then they started censoring anyone who shared it. I'm not saying jews control the media, but it's clear that those who oppose Zionism are faced with censorship and ostracization, especially in the business-world.
The facts just don't lie, unfortunately.
Pointing out a fact not all Jews are Zionists they don't control anything if they did we all would allredy be prepared for the journey to the promised land Jews and gentile
Absolutely. We've all heard the "jews control the media" rhetoric from 4chan.
I'm pointing out that there is definitely some truth to Zionists controlling the media, as we see everyday with people losing jobs and facing censorship for support of Palestine.
I think it's in the best interests of Jews to distance themselves from Zionists as much as possible.
If Zionists controlled the media, there wouldn't be coverage of the atrocities in Palestine on western TV news every night. I think that idea is a bit exaggerated.
The media is not one entity.
Yes but do you condemn Hamas? Maybe, to save on breath, Jews should all just walk around with crossed-out David's stars? Or maybe instead of blue/white ones plain yellow ones to make the difference clear?
...I know I'm being overly aggressive right now but this "Whole ethnicity should condemn bad actors they have nothing to do with" shit is utterly unproductive and insulting. I mean there's some validity in e.g. asking Americans to condemn Trump, at least they can vote for him or not. Or to ask American Jews to comment on AIPAC. The majority of Jews are not Israelis, they have no say in what Israel is up to. It's like asking Harry from Newcastle in, in a pub in Newcastle, whether he condemns Trump, after all, he's Anglophone surely there must be a connection. Consider for example that all those bankers speak English...
Why would I condemn Hamas? They're not doing anything that Israel hasn't already done to them first.
Oh boy. For one, they're fascists oppressing Palestinians. For two, they're the Palestinian version of the Kahanites keeping the conflict boiling.
Hamas is not the PLO and unless you're an ass-backwards Islamist, they're definitely not on your side.
So you want Palestinians to be completely un armed and surrender like how Germans did with jews? I believe germany did not do a good job re educating.
Yeah. This guy is just desperate to save face for zionists.
I'm seeing more of that on lemmy, now.
I was off-handedly lauding the PLO and you call me a Zionist. The PLO, contains armed faction, btw, hence the "brand new sentence" thing.
Yep, both of you really don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah, that immediately makes me not take you seriously.
Whenever someone approaches me as though they're automatically correct, I just toss their assertions out the window because they're usually wrong.
Try to argue better 😬
Ok: PLO are left-wing freedom fighters, Hamas are Islamofascist nutjobs financed by the Israeli right-wing to discredit Palestinian liberation. Is that better?
All in one breath, too.
Yes, Bin Ladin hated Jews and the state of Israel.
Jews or Israel are not responsible for his actions.
To everybody reading this who may consider agreeing, may I just ask how large of a leap it is to go from being explicitly pro-terrorist to becoming a terrorist? In my mind, it's maybe not a leap.