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"But the Trumpian part is that even though, or perhaps because, it may be part of a Trump scam, Knight now too may be on the hook for $175 million as it won't automatically get out from underneath its own proffered surety."

Hankey, a billionaire, has already said that his company will be able to post the money for Trump.

He was reacting to a comment on X by lawyer Dave Kingman, who wrote that Knight will not be able to post the $175 million.

"Understand that Knight Specialty has a problem. This bond cannot be approved. Under the CPLR [Civil Practice Laws and Rules] the surety will remain obligated under the bond until a replacement bond is filed. Trump is unlikely to get a replacement bond. Knight Spec will be liable AND Trump won't have a stay [on enforcement]," he wrote.

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[–] givesomefucks 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)
  1. She was going to seize propert if no bond.

  2. This bond came in at the last second.

  3. A bunch of issues were found with the bond.

  4. A court ruled it's not valid.

  5. For some reason that means they have to pay the bond in cash, and trump has to cover the rest of the original?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A court ruled it's not valid.

Has this happened yet? all I've seen so far is the court asked the insurance co for more information, but no outright ruling on the validity.

[–] givesomefucks 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

A New York court has rejected Knight Specialty's paperwork and said it wanted to see more information on its financial backing. The company filed new paperwork on April 4.

It's my understanding that new paperwork didn't help anything.

Like, one of the issues was they weren't even licensed in NY, I don't know how paperwork could retroactively make it legal.

But while they can't promise to pay it under bond, they did sign something saying they were good for 175 million. And they don't have it.

So trump failed to post bond, and now they can seize property.

I think

Shits confusing and trump just says anything to delay this stuff. But I think if Knight doesn't cut a check for cash, they seize property up to what they couldn't out of the 175 million. Or maybe somehow the whole amount because he couldn't get the bond.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

What's confusing is these articles are written to sound like these things have happened when really it's just a quote from some rando who says these things are likely to happen. The court itself has not ruled on or rejected the paperwork yet. If you can find an article after 4/4/24 that says otherwise I'd love to see it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I hate Trump and I hope he gets all that's coming to him, but I don't think this is accurate.

In order for Trump to delay payment of the fines he was court ordered to pay he needs to appeal the courts decision. Under the local law that means he doesn't have to pay till the new case is received or rejected and when received is done, but he does have to post a bond to make sure he doesn't just appeal to get a delay and to ensure at least some of the fines are paid. At first the bond was set to the entire amount, this was challenged by Trump and adjusted to be only a part by the court.

Then Trump attempted to post the bond from Knight, but there was a technical issue with the posting. Some documents were missing including a financial statement. This has lead to speculation it may be that these documents show the bond won't hold up and thus would get rejected. It may however just be an error and get corrected right away. There is the opportunity to repost it and correct the errors, so we will see what happens.

The article goes on into discussion and speculation by a couple of lawyers on Xitter that if the bond doesn't hold up, Trump would have to pay the full amount. And this would probably mean some of his property would get seized. However none of this has happened yet and is thus total speculation. The lawyers also go into a lot of speculation about the bond and the insurer.

Let's just wait and see what the court says. Instead of this grabbing popcorn and yelling grab his shit before we're good and well ready. I've heard Trump getting what's coming to him so many times now and it never seems to happen, so I don't want to get my hopes up.