What? Your logic falls apart when considering something like drunk driving, or, blocking a fire escape. You think describing drunk driving as bad behavior is inappropriate? That's other people's behavior. What about sexual assault? That is someone else's behavior. Both have directly affected me. Am I not permitted to be critical of that?

You are acting like a shopping cart not putter awayer, a public transit loud music player, or a big shit no flusher. Or, more seriously, you are defending casual drunk driving

Edit: on topic: Being massively altered on public transport is objectively damaging to others

[–] John_McMurray 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Whataboutism isn't logic, neither is fear based whining, or pretending to not understand the difference between "behavior" and "actions", all in order to demonstrate an innate desire to be controlled. You don't know you're doing that, do you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not whataboutism, it's explanation by anecdote. You have no ability to meet my questions and no meaningful rebuttal. You've danced around drunk driving enough to make it pretty clear you don't see that obvious example as wrong, so how could you handle a more nuanced situation?

I don't need to waste any more time with someone who thinks the above behaviors are acceptable, regardless of reasoning for arriving there.

Seeking to live in a society where others make certain efforts to be good to each other is not a desire to be controlled.

[–] John_McMurray -1 points 6 months ago

And yet, here you are, begging for it, again. Go get a leather daddy already.