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[–] Poayjay 70 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Yeah it looks like the Tesla meme is over. Their production caught up with the tail end of early adapter demand. Regular consumers won’t tolerate bullshit like this:

“three months of free Full-Self Driving beta to help move cars. (Reminder that FSD can’t actually fully drive for you.”

All the resources that went into the cyber truck should have been making a new flagship or economy model instead of another meme. Tech bros are moving on the new shiny thing (everything ai) and hopefully this is the beginning of the decent of musk into obscurity.

[–] simplejack 46 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I imagine that a lot of the sales slump is being driven by Musks antics. It’s not uncommon to hear “I’d probably buy a Telsa, but I don’t want to support Elon Musk.”

[–] TheFonz 19 points 8 months ago

I think word of mouth on the build quality is catching up. I just had dinner with some friends who have bought one recently and we're telling everyone at the table don't buy it: it's still being developed and is flawed.

[–] NewNewAccount 11 points 8 months ago

I’ve thought and said that exact thing.

[–] Wrench 5 points 8 months ago

Well, the anti Musk hate definitely helped raise awareness on just how bad tesla build quality is, and the major problems with many of their features.

The cars themselves would have had major flaws that would still be deal breakers without Musk tanking his reputation. Difference is that more people know about them because of the dog piling that happened to anything Musk related as a direct consequence of his actions.

[–] jqubed 45 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It sounds to me like they still need to learn how to really build a car. This many years in on a car this expensive and I’m still reading about fit and finish problems. The design that makes repairs super expensive after a collision needs to become more repairable to reduce insurance costs. And they need to become more compatible with common user experiences with most cars; there shouldn’t need to be instructions for how to open doors. I get that Musk hates physical buttons, but they make driving safer than looking at a screen.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's ridiculous how much they felt the need to reinvent stuff that didn't need reinventing. I get that you get new opportunities and challenges when there's no engine and everything, but you don't throw away everything the automotive industry has found out in the last 100 years.

[–] joekar1990 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It’s amazing to me they spent so much time on the truck and there are so many things about it getting reported like the whole model is in beta software version of the car.

[–] mean_bean279 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

On the launch event they touted “front a rear lockers.” Which basically every truck now offers at least one of those in a model or two. On the CyberTruck? It’s still unavailable and will be released later in an update… it’s mechanical… it’s not software. I drive a truck with F+R lockers. If I had a quad motor truck I wouldn’t want lockers, because the motor that’s on the ground can still move me. If you won’t have a mechanical connection than simply don’t promise a feature and then have to software design a half-baked solution.

Also, the CT doesn’t have Teslas “full self driving” like all the other models. It will allegedly come later, but it’s not out yet….

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No Tesla models have full self driving

[–] Anticorp 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

True, but they claim that they do, which has caused several deaths.

[–] joekar1990 2 points 8 months ago

It’s probably why Elon said everyone gets a free trial so they can collect that much more driving data.

[–] Anticorp 7 points 8 months ago

but you don't throw away everything the automotive industry has found out in the last 100 years.

You do when you're an idiot who thinks he's smarter than everyone else.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago

My fit is fine for mine.

The paint is garbage. The paint dings with normal driving. It’ll chip and flake off.

[–] jaybone 5 points 8 months ago

It is a company that employees a lot of Americans, which is good. I’d rather see them get rid of musk and then improve quality and marketing decisions. But that probably won’t happen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

full self driving is not actually full self driving.

deception at its finest.

remember when they faked it to look better?