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Get an EV and you’ll never have to go to a gas station again. None of the chargers I’ve seen have ads on them.
Still early in the enshittification cycle. It'll happen eventually.
All of the chargers I've seen have ads on them.
Maybe public ones but the good thing about electric is you plug in and either walk away or sit in your car you don't need to be outside near the pump to charge.
Watch them start making chargers that hook up to your infotainment system and run ads all the way through your charging session.
Edit: period.
That's an interesting way to spin the fact that it takes so long to charge that it's impractical to stand there and wait for it to finish.
If you turned the gas pump down to make it pump slowly enough, you could walk away from it while you wait, too.
No you can't walk away from a gas pump, if it ignites you need to know.
Electric is still better than gas, it has more acceleration and torque. I can out accelerate many gas cars in my minivan.
You have an electric minivan? Since when were those a thing?
Pacifica plug in hybrid, only has 40 mile range but in the city it's all I use. So I use almost no gas unless it's super cold. I also only buy gas every 3 months and at Costco so no audio ads on the pumps.
Aw, you got my hopes up for a minute there.
I've got a minivan with a hateful automatic transmission that I only reluctantly accepted because it was a hand-me-down from my parents, and I've often thought that the only excuse worth a damn for not having a proper stick shift would be if the car were electric (and therefore had no transmission at all).
'Course, any new vehicle would be a privacy nightmare, so realistically if I finally get fed up enough with this thing then I'm more likely to either manual-swap it or replace it with something like a Mazda5 or Previa. Sucks that manufacturers have poison-pilled every single EV, but whatcha gonna do?
I don't even have an EV and I have to see the ads on the chargers because they're in front of the store I'm walking into. So far, I've only noticed that at grocery stores, but it's annoying.
They target the most common denominator. Once EVs are everywhere, look at the chargers getting filled with ads.
Maybe, but I don't think it's worth it. With a gas car, you stand idle at the pump for a few minutes making sure that nothing bursts into flames or gas doesn't overflow. Charging an EV isn't like that. They've got about 5 seconds of your time at the most.
Fast charging is constantly improving though, I wouldn't be surprised if we reach a point where EV charging improves to a point where it takes roughly the same time as charging an ICE vehicle in the 2030s.
https://driving.ca/auto-news/technology-news/toyota-says-ev-batteries-will-charge-to-near-full-in-10-minutes-by-2027
Well, Toyota's claims about batteries are intended to convince people not to buy EVs yet. They're going to be SO much better real soon now so just buy another Toyota gas car and think about EVs next time.
It's just another flavour of the anti-EV FUD Toyota has been spewing for a decade now. They're also saying that hydrogen is the future and that gas will always be 70%+ of the car market, so you have your choice of anti-EV FUD. Consistency doesn't matter when you're running a disinformation campaign.
Lol that would be the ultimate first world problem. Charging so fast it makes more sense to stand at the plug than go into the store to pee.
Volta has level2 free chargers in some of the grocery stores in my area. Pretty big screens. I don't pay attention to them when I'm charging while shopping.
Not great for privacy or freedom though