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[–] [email protected] 174 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Don’t go back on your intent to leave for a better job. Some employers will see you as disloyal if you take the raise and stay. You’re usually better off leaving anyway.

[–] CosmicTurtle 102 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There is rarely a situation where you should allow your employer to match the offer you have in hand.

They had the opportunity to do so and then failed to properly retain you. If they realize how much losing you will cost them in productivity, that's on them, not you.

It's not personal. It's literally business.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You could try negotiating regular pay raises, start with a match and require 5% per year after that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

If they ain't paying you enough to stay they're highly unlikely to honor the idea of regular raises. They've already shown they're willing to low ball you if they can get away with it so fuck taking the risk of staying.

[–] iyaerP 41 points 7 months ago

Yup. You're liable to be downsized in a couple months anyway.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you take the raise and stay, you're now a bigger number on the same asshole bean counter's spreadsheet. Maybe the biggest in your role. That's not a long term move.

[–] Dkarma 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Being the highest paid is always the best move.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Highest-paid-off is first laid-off.

[–] Passerby6497 25 points 7 months ago

This. My buddy/former manager accepted a counter offer and lasted less than 6 months before they fired him, and made his working life miserable during that time. Just reinforced the mentality in me to never trust the counter offer of a place I already want to leave.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Yep. Soon as you commit to looking, you commit to leaving.

I told my last supervisor about every interview I was on; how it went, what I thought, etc. After a year I left abruptly (ie the pace at which they'd fire me). They were surprised, even after I'd been telling my supe about my hunting for a year.