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Are there no female gynecologists?
You’d kinda need to be a female gynecological researcher w clout, and then maybe like 40 years after you demonstrate a need for a new technique, it might start to catch on.
I would imagine that tolerating the pain was beaten into women for so long that at this point it would be futile to try to change it because they would be shamed and seen as weak.
I mean we're talking about humans, not Klingons
There was a documented case of a nurse stealing pain medication and injecting women with saline to cover for it and it took years for her to be caught because no one believed the women who said they were in pain. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/22/podcasts/serial-the-retrievals-yale-fertility-clinic.html&ved=2ahUKEwi1n93Yip2FAxWONlkFHStzA7wQFnoECAUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw23_e6wsBLQ7jybQBvuJOvI
Personally I've had numerous cervical biopsies (as in they cut chunks out of you with the devil's scissors) and the standard of care is no numbing agent or pain medication of any kind. The dr said to give a yell if I was going to faint bc that happens a lot. I asked why I couldn't have something and they were like, 'dunno. We just don't do that'
I’m a guy, so forgive my ignorance for this question: could you not have requested it? And by request, I mean push until they agreed?
I did try, they were like 'we don't have anything here' and then it was down to 'soo do you want to keep this appointment or try again next month?' And I had a sitter with the kid and had taken off work so I sucked it up. Like they always expect you to. The next time I went so far as to talk to another Dr in the practice but I kept being told over and over it wasn't done and isn't necessary. Definitely check out the podcast 'the retrievals' to learn more about how women's pain is treated in ob/gyn
They won't agree no matter how hard you push.
direct link without tracking garbage: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/22/podcasts/serial-the-retrievals-yale-fertility-clinic.html
So b your logic, do you believe some minority cops means no institutionalised racism in policing?
I asked a question
I don't believe for a second that you didn't know there were female gynecologists. You were attempting to shift blame, not ask questions and engage in meaningful discourse.
I was making people question the original premise that a. No gynecological procedures involve sedation b. That this still occurs universally and contemporaneously and c. That male doctors somehow have exclusive and universal control over procedures and have denied sedation out of deliberate malfeasance.
You then tried to apply a false reading to an unrelated situation to create a false equivalency.
Your comment was as ludicrous as saying, "You don't like chocolate ice cream? So what you're saying is that you support the bombing of Palestine!!!!"
If perhaps you explained yourself in the original comment, I would not have assumed incorrectly.
Your question doesn't even fully cover point c, let alone a and b. I'm not psychic 🤷♀️
I didn't have to, because it was a question. Your ridiculous response is on you, buddy 🤷♂️
You absolutely didn't have to. And my response is absolutely on me. If your goal was to be ambiguous with your question, you achieved it. If your goal was to outline points a, b and c above, you did not succeed.
You're trying to impose a goal then claiming that I failed? You're really telling on yourself here bud