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[–] Anticorp 11 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I haven't played this game, but usually the issue with FF being on in multiplayer games is that there are a million little trolls out there that love to kill their teammates. That's not realism, it's just annoying.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

Helldivers isn't a competitive team based shooter. It's a 4 player mission based co-op game. Friendly fire is core to the game design. Using a powerful weapon comes with a risk of killing yourself or team mates. And death, in that game, is also important. It's not much of a punishment, but it does give risk.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most servers with FF on in games I've played will kick after a certain number of tks and then eventually kickban.

[–] Anticorp 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's good then, unless it's a genuine mistake. Getting banned from your game just because you suck isn't very fun. But it's not fun playing with someone who consistently sucks either.

[–] TwanHE 1 points 7 months ago

Where are the days of /f /p.

[–] ours 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I play the game religiously and I have come across exactly one idiot who TKed on purpose. FF is 99.99% accidental.

Many cases they are somewhat justified as the team desperately tries to stay alive and drop stratagements (close air support) anywhere from "danger close" to "broken arrow" ("I pray this kills the towering insect trying to eat us"). Sometimes you also lose awareness and walk into a teammates stratagement, sometimes your call out falls short of where you intended (or bounces back straight to you). So hilarious accidents occur regularly.

Without this, the game wouldn't be the same at all. There is an odd military realism in a somewhat cartoony Starship Troopers-esque game that really gel very well together.

[–] AngryCommieKender 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I understand "danger close." I was in the USN. The term "Broken Arrow," is generally used to describe a "lost, missing, or misplaced" nuclear weapon.

What does Broken Arrow mean in this context? Are you literally dropping a nuke on your own heads? If so I would use the term Tango Uniform

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah pretty much calling airstrikes, or orbital artillery in on your current position cause you just got swarmed by like 5 huge armoured bugs or robots.

[–] ours 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah "broken arrow" has two meanings. In the Air Force (or at least during the Vietnam war), it was the code phrase to urgently call in all available air assets as a unit was in danger of being overrun. And that meant dropping whatever they had with little coordination and high risk of friendly fire (like during the Battle of Ia Drang).

[–] AngryCommieKender 2 points 7 months ago

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.

[–] AngryCommieKender 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It works just fine in Mech Warrior Online. The trolls figured out they could build a "suicide" light mech that will one shot any assault mech, and take themselves out in the process. Admittedly, the game penalizes you by lowering your mercenary payout for friendly fire.