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[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Germany: "NEIN IMMIGRANTS, NO MORE!"

Also Germany: "Why can't we replace the workers of our aging population?! Where did we go wrong?"

EDIT: Btw these aren't children, it's university students older than 21.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

In this case it's a giant housing shortage though. The city (and large surrounding area) is Freiburg in the south. Rents are so expensive and available flats are so rare that companies don't find workers who could actually live there. Also: the comparably good loans don't mean much when it's only channeled into a greedy landlord's pockets.

Edit: oh no i was wrong it's Nuremberg - their public transport organization is also "VAG". But Freiburg has a huge labor shortage due to unaffordable housing and housing shortage.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 6 points 8 months ago

By housing the students in the trams, they are freeing valuable real estate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

It's practically the same. Nürnberg has a joined University with it's neighbouring city, Erlangen. Erlangen has the highest rent per square meter (if you're not eligible for student housing). It's high prices for the whole region, because the Nürnberg-Erlangen metro region is the biggest population, business and cultural center in the north of Bavaria.

[–] madcaesar 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Immigration isn't a the cause of all our problems. But it also isn't the solution to all our problems.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Idk I feel like having more working people would solve not having enough working people.

[–] Son_of_dad -2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yes but Germans are racist, despite their PR push to be seen as the most progressive, liberal people, they're actually pretty backwards

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

I think that's a separate problem they need to address. Immigration solves the worker shortage problem quite neatly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Don't know why you are getting downvoted, at least this comment is spot on. Best regards, a German.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Pay people more? No, no, bring in cheap labour from overseas!

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is fair, too, Germany's minimum wage is €12 which is slightly more than half of their neighbouring Switzerland's 23 CHF per hour. I bet tons of people would be willing to drive a tram if they payed more.

That said, I don't think it's nice to refer to immigrants as "cheap labour from overseas" especially when the alternative is literally children.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That said, I don’t think it’s nice to refer to immigrants as “cheap labour from overseas”

Do you think the ruling class see it as anything other than?