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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Good luck trying to explain to working-class people that the struggle they're feeling is only because they don't understand economics well enough.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Good luck trying to explain to tech-savvy upper-income Lemmy users that average income adjusted for inflation, at the bottom end of the scale, has actually been rising faster than the grocery prices, and that that's a good thing.

I've been trying for a couple of days now with apparently no success.

[–] Cryophilia 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

All these tech bros on Lemmy making over 6 figures calling themselves "working class" is really funny

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Working class doesn't mean poor, it means you don't own business assets and generally that you don't profit off the labour of others. It's a convenient method of control to keep working class people so divided that the fight remains amongst ourselves instead of it being focused on improving things for everyone.

[–] Cryophilia 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Working class doesn’t mean poor,

No, but a lot of upper middle class people are sure happy to exploit the connotation of poverty from the phrase.

People making $30k/yr and people making $300k/yr have nothing in common except they both hate they people making $1m/yr. They don't belong to the same class. They just have a mutual enemy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Workers with higher incomes are definitely buffered from a lot, but they easily have more in common with people making 30k than with people who are set up for life. Further, people making 30k have more in common with higher income workers than they do with people with no current income who are struggling with being unhoused. Also, everyone living as part of a community suffers together from the increased crime, health issues, and lack of opportunities promoted by economies with extreme class hierarchies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Between my wife and I we make a little over 200k USD a year.

I do not own the fruit of my labor. If I am unemployed for an extended period of time I will lose my home. Sure I am not struggling to pay my bills (for now, but I could be hot with a layoff at any time), and sure the numbers that flow through my bank account are unmanageable for a lot of people. But at the end of the day I have a lot more on common with someone making federal minimum wage then I have with someone who owns the means of production.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

True, but I think they were referring to the broader topic of the OP post, "Americans." Not just the ones on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Don't need the luck, I don't chase fool's errands.