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[–] mholiv 110 points 7 months ago (2 children)

For the record. The SSPL that Redis switched to while technically not recognized by the OSI really isn’t bad at all.

It’s exactly like the AGPL except even more “powerful”. Under the SSPL if you host redis as a paid service you would have to open source the tooling you use to manage those hosted instances of redis.

I don’t see why anyone but hyper scalers would object. It’s a shame that the OSI didn’t adopt it.

[–] baatliwala 43 points 7 months ago (3 children)

From what I've understood SSPL is a ridiculously ambiguous license, it's extreme copyleft. It's not just "open source the tooling you use to host the software", it can also be interpreted to mean "open source all the hardware and firmware you use to host the software". No one wants to risk going to court for that so corporate wants to use SSPL licensed software.

AGPL is the best license you can go for IMO.

[–] mholiv 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The ambiguity is a valid concern. Hopefully the next version addresses this a bit better. This being said mega corps will call anything they can’t abuse for profit “extreme”. So if they think it’s extreme that just means we are on the right track.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

lmao imagine allowing to run your software only on RISC-V boxes basically, pretty based but also a shoot in the foot in terms of acquiring any major funding

[–] mholiv 16 points 7 months ago

To be fair the license is not meant to cause this and has never been enforced like this. The license was written for software tooling.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Huh I interpreted it as "everything involved with deployment" so connecting services, scripts, parts the OS that touch it, and an configurations.

I guess that is the ambiguity you mentioned

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Regardless of whether it is too strong or too ambiguous, it is absolutely an open source license regardless of whether the OSI and/or FSF approve of it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

I wonder who all are sponsoring OSI for them to not recognize SSPL.