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[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

cant wait until someone proposes a gun ban, on the precedent of the abortion ban. Will be a funny day.

[–] aidan 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

But that doesn't really make sense, there is no federal law about abortion, the constitution protects gun ownership.ax

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

yeah, that's my point.

There was a federal law about abortion. We dont have it anymore.

[–] aidan 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Except it was written nowhere near as explicitly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

idk man it was pretty explicit, considering the fact that the second it was removed, legislation went into place in order to ban it on a state level. Seems pretty explicit to me.

[–] aidan 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wdym? The SCOTUS ruling was explicit, the constitution never mentioned it though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

yeah, idk if you noticed, but generally, theres this pretty cool thing about the US government where its really fucking bloated, and so anything can come from anywhere. It's not like amendments are set in stone either. I mean slavery would be a thing still otherwise, and women wouldn't have rights.

[–] aidan 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah no but amendments have to be explicitly changed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] aidan 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

yup. What makes you think any part of the constitution is any different? Shit wasn't written by god and this isnt the catholic church.

[–] aidan 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because once the state ignores the law binding it, the people might as well too. The bill of rights is the protections of the people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

well see thats the thing, you don't ignore it, you just make it not apply anymore.

[–] aidan 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wdym? Like pass an amendment? Yeah that's an option just nobody's really pushing for that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

yeah exactly, all it takes is people pushing for it. That's it.

[–] aidan 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

literally everything the government does is difficult.

[–] aidan 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

hence the fact that it has multiple branches, that all do different things

[–] MJKee9 3 points 8 months ago

Technically, both gun ownership rights and abortion rights were based on supreme Court interpretation of the 2nd and 14th amendments (respectively). Given the reversal of the right to abortion under the 14th amendment, an argument could be made that a similar reversal is due for the 2nd amendment as well. The 2nd amendment could simply be interpreted to mean that gun ownership is only a right as part of a "well regulated militia.'. In my opinion, that is the plain meaning of the provision anyway, but I'm just a gun toting liberal that doesn't get sexually aroused or validated by the size of my firearm.