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[โ€“] PilotJones 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Really wish the organizers at tracks like Hockenheim or Sepang had the budget to host a race. So many tracks here that are simply all right, buying their way in, while truly stellar ones just wither away on the sidelines.

Very curious to see if the Chinese GP even happens next year.

[โ€“] BURN 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Iโ€™d love to see hockenheim back. Itโ€™s a great track for racing and a ton of fun to watch.

Apparently it just makes no financial sense with the amount of spectators that go. Mercedes lost money on the GP in 2019 if I remember right, on top of being an absolute clownshow for them. If there was interest in Germany with a German driver maybe weโ€™ll see it back, but right now it doesnโ€™t make a ton of sense.

[โ€“] HerrVorragend 2 points 2 years ago

True, Hockenheim is my favourite track.

My hopes are on 2026 and beyond, when Audi and Mercedes might push for a German race.

[โ€“] woelkchen 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Really wish the organizers at tracks like Hockenheim or Sepang had the budget to host a race.

If only there was an Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team with connections to both countries that would push for that...

[โ€“] PilotJones 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It would be quite the bill to foot for an organisation thatโ€™s already pretty expensive to run. I donโ€™t imagine they would do that unless thereโ€™s some serious financial incentive at the end of it, even if there is a connection there. They are a business after all.

[โ€“] woelkchen 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It would be quite the bill to foot for an organisation thatโ€™s already pretty expensive to run.

You mean two organizations: Mercedes-Benz AG and Petronas. The Red Bull F1 team isn't the owner and sponsor of Red Bull Ring either.

They are a business after all.

So is Red Bull and the incentive is to promote the brand.

[โ€“] PilotJones 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mean, Iโ€™m pretty sure this must have been considered by them already, so if they still havenโ€™t done it, itโ€™s probably because the numbers just donโ€™t check out.

Its clear that organisations like RB, Merc and Ferrari are highly adept at (and love) making money. If theyโ€™re not partaking in a potential opportunity, there must truly be a compelling economic reason behind that with the sort of information that you and I are simply not privy to.

[โ€“] Fireinthesky7 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mercedes the company put a boatload of money into the German GP and lost a fair amount of it.

[โ€“] woelkchen 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Lost"? Advertising itself does not make any profit at all. It's about promoting the brand and making money from selling the product. Ask Red Bull for details. They spend loads of money (including hosting their own GP) to promote canned soda.

[โ€“] Fireinthesky7 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about advertising money, I'm talking about them contributing to the fees paid to the FIA to host the actual Grand Prix. The organizers lost money on that race most years. It ran, and 2019 was no exception.

[โ€“] woelkchen 1 points 1 year ago

The organizers lost money on that race most years.

Because the German car brand is not interested in paying the fees of a German GP to promote "quality made in Germany".