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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Are you First Nation?

Yes? Then you aren't an immigrant.

No? Find out where your family originated from before coming to Canada, and that would be the place.

The bigots from the poll have a problem with the other immigrants who aren't them or their family.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh, they have problems with indigenous people, too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I'd have to agree with that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

My family came from Russia four generations ago. I'm not able to move to Russia even if I wanted to.

I was born here, and therefore by definition I am not an immigrant.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think you've missed the point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Are you saying I can't criticize immigration because my family generations ago are immigrants? If not, then I did miss your point.

My rebuttal to that is that I did not choose to be born here. And I'm here now and it's obvious that immigration levels are too high given our failing housing and health care policies for example.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can certainly criticize immigration policy, but having a problem with immigrants seems like a double standard.

Does that make sense now?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes so why are you assuming that's not the reasoning the people in the poll have? Barely anyone in Canada actually dislikes immigrants themselves

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

why are you assuming that’s not the reasoning the people in the poll have?

Well, you have to read the article/poll, because a large number said that immigrants (as people) are a harm to Canada.

Barely anyone in Canada actually dislikes immigrants themselves

We can agree to disagree on this point. Seeing how hate crimes are up, and that only visible minority immigrants are targeted, I'd say we are far from having a country where everyone likes immigrants (as people).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Aren't those hate crimes mostly among immigrants themselves? The recent gang problems in Vancouver are all from India.

I don't really pay attention outside of BC on this though

[–] dlpkl 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What a ridiculous statement though. There were people in Canada before the current indigenous people, does that make our First Nations, Metis, and Inuit peoples settlers and conquerors? Where's the buck stop?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Do the pollsters have a problem with our indigenous "immigrants" or just the brown, yellow, and black ones?

When I hear someone say that "there are too many immigrants!", they aren't talking about immigration policy. They are actually just being racist towards the other immigrants.

The majority of people in this country are a descendent of an immigrant of the last several generations. So, it's silly to have a problem with actual immigrant people.