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TikTok has been at the center of controversy for the United States government in the last few years. Particularly, members of the Senate believe China-based parent company ByteDance could spy on its users and share information with the Chinese Government.

With fears that TikTok could shut down if new legislation passes Congress, with lawmakers pushing for the website’s sale, ex-Activision CEO Bobby Kotick is reportedly looking to purchase the platform.

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[–] Viking_Hippie 55 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

ByteDance could spy on its users and share information with the Chinese Government.

Whereas it's a well-known fact that Facebook, Twitter, and everything Google spy on their users and share information with the US government.

That's fine, though, because the US government has NEVER been known to violate the rights of its own people and people from pretty much every other country in the world as well, nuh-uh! 🙄

[–] jumjummy 27 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It’s not a “could spy”, it’s a definitely spies. Yes, it sucks that we don’t have broader social media reforms and controls in place, but allowing a foreign hostile government this much direct access to US citizens is a bridge too far.

[–] WarlordSdocy 6 points 6 months ago

Then maybe this should be the time to curtail all social media apps from being able to spy on users. But no they won't do that cause the US government uses that data for itself happily. So instead they make legislation that allows them to broadly target any social media app they mark as "controlled by a hostile foreign power". Which just sounds like a way for them to target any social media app that isn't US based and that they can't control in some way. I don't like TikTok and I think it should be forced to stop spying or be banned, but the same standard should be applied to all websites, apps, etc.

[–] Viking_Hippie -2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I partially agree: you're right that the Chinese government spying on American users is unacceptable, but you're wrong about it being any worse than the US government doing it.

Only case would be if you work in government, but even then, it'd only be a problem if you're using an unsecured device that also has Tiktok on it to do secret government stuff on, which would probably get you super-fired and possibly prosecuted in itself..

[–] jumjummy 2 points 6 months ago

Well, if you look at that argument from the US government perspective, a US company vs a China one certainly warrants a different approach. I mean, I wish we had broader social media level data protections, but that’s not what this is no matter what spin is being applied.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

From a personal point of view aren't I better off if a foreign government spies on me rather than a local one?

Like China isn't going to fine me for piracy or jail me for protesting. My country could.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I like how it says "could," when it's been a known fact for awhile now, that they do this.

[–] Viking_Hippie 0 points 6 months ago

Probably a case of alleged-itis 🤷

[–] lledrtx 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand why this comment is inevitably under every Tiktok thread. Everyone knows Big Tech spies for the govt especially the lawmakers, precisely why they don't want a hostile foreign govt doing it.

China knows this too - that's why FB, Google etc are banned there. So what's your point?

[–] Viking_Hippie -1 points 6 months ago

My point is that it's empty posturing based in xenophobia. Most of Congress don't give a shit about the data privacy and safety of Tiktok users. They just want to be able to tell voters that they bravely took on the Big Bad Chinese Government Company

Other than the cheap political points, they hope that it'll distract those same voters from the fact that they're doing nothing about the much bigger problem of many times bigger American companies who cooperate with the same government and other geopolitical adversaries while doing the same as Tiktok on a much larger scale.