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[–] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

Only if you neutered them very young. Removal of the testicles reduces the potential for odor and taint associated with male hormones in boars after puberty. If you didn't do this to your pet pig, you are going to regret it when you cook it.

Source: My mother ran the local 4H club. Kids shouldn't see live castrations of animals IMHO. Especially since they are mostly done without anesthesia. The squeals still haunt me.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 8 months ago (4 children)

The fact that people are so insulated from the suffering of the animals they eat is part of the problem

[–] slaacaa 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

More like part of the “solution”, created and upheld intentionally by the meat&dairy industry, incl. happy pictures of cows on an open field in the sunshine. I eat meat, but I would be stupid argue that vegans aren’t right. The suffering and cruelty we are causing animals (and the related pollution to the planet) is unacceptable.

[–] angrystego 9 points 8 months ago

Seeing suffering doesn't result in more empathy, it results in psychological damage and often in less empathy - losing empathy is a coping mechanism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I‘m happy to know every farmer I buy meat from, and also how they are kept and treated (way better than these requires). I could even pet or buy any animal I want from them. Further, I’m happy that my county‘s laws are as strict as they are.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I know locally sourced is much better for the environment, but when talking about empathy for the animals, I don't think getting to pet them before they die really cuts it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

Unless you have very sharp nails.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

Well, I’m all for cultured meat products… but Florida’s House Bill 435 wants to snub progress.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (2 children)

if kids shouldnt see how their food is made then maybe they shouldnt be eating it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Your terms are acceptable. I've taught my kids a lot about anatomy from butchering.

[–] muntedcrocodile -1 points 8 months ago

Sounds fair. My parents made me look after some of our chickens from hatching then a couple months later there i was plucking the poor bastard. Gotta say it took a tremendouse amount of effort to raise and prepare that bird but my god did it tast so much better knowing all the love and effort that went into that animal.

[–] whenigrowup356 21 points 8 months ago

Maybe no one should see it?

There's pretty widely documented evidence that slaughterhouse work is also harmful to mental health.

(Link is to sagepub)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Holy crap, this got real very fast...

[–] GardenVarietyAnxiety 6 points 8 months ago

...and now they haunt me. Damn my over vivid imagination.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

So I agree it probably sucks for children to see it, but it sucks that the industry exists. Maybe we should all suffer through seeing where meat comes from.

(Just to be clear, I'm an occasional meat eater. I've seen all of this stuff, and after considering the this of meat and also the carbon effect, I have reduced my meat intake, but I'm not at zero yet. Hopefully some day. I just wanted to be clear I'm somewhat of a hypocrite so I'm not dishonest.)

[–] muntedcrocodile -2 points 8 months ago

Dont they just need about a year or so of being castrated for said oder to not effect the meat?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Kids shouldn't see live castrations of animals IMHO

Not without reason, but my daughter has been helping me with lambing since she was like 5 years old. Part of that is putting castrator bands on and docking tails, it hasn't messed her up but just been a good lesson in responsibility and handling animals respectfully.

However lambs just bleat a couple times and lay down in the corner. Showing non-farm kids a bunch of squealing piglets out of nowhere is definitely going to traumatize them.

By the way a non-neutered boar sounds like a terrifying pet to me! I would hope any pet pigs are castrated for safety reasons alone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand why the hell you're being downvoted.

[–] SkippingRelax 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because on lemmy you can't have a reasonable discussion about meat eating without being brigaded by vegans that add little to the conversation besides meat cruel and meat pollution.

Mate here brought up a good example. I myself raise chickens for egg production (i also engage in less sustainable/ humane meat eating to be frank). Would be happy to have an intelligent conversation with someone besides the usual 3-4 arguments like 'battery chickens' which don't apply to my chooks are happy, have plenty of space, toys, food and protection.

[–] SkippingRelax 1 points 8 months ago

Point in case. Downvoted without saying a word.