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[–] Kentaree 23 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Ireland has no chance, people here are extremely pro neutrality to the point there were protests when American Airforce jets refueled here. It's not a case of alignment, it's that nobody wants to get involved in any sort of conflict.

[–] khannie 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That was a very long time ago unless I've missed something more recent? (Genuine question) Personally think it's time to re-examine our neutrality

It feels wrong not to support Ukraine militarily.

[–] taanegl 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're all very neutral, until it comes to throwing an Englishman in the sea - LAI-DEE-DAI-DEE-DEE!!!

[–] khannie 4 points 8 months ago

Hi-dilly-hi....hi-dilly-ho.....over the side of the boat you go!

Nah we're all friendly now for the most part. Sporting events excluded naturally where fervent, screaming nationalism from the Irish comes in and the English wonder why we are so angry at them. :D

[–] Kentaree 5 points 8 months ago

There was a lot of backlash in the last few months when Leo Varadkar attended a defense conference which was mostly NATO members. He was forced to state that Ireland will not join any military alliance whatsoever. I do agree that it feels wrong to not support countries that realistically we're aligned with but the Irish military is in such a state that if we tried I'd expect Ukraine to actually donate equipment to us instead

[–] fidodo 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

A reunified Ireland could benefit from being in NATO in case England loses their God damn minds and tried to take them back at some point in the future, but I guess those days are over.

[–] khannie 6 points 8 months ago

Yeah, those days are gone thankfully. Also it would be a mistake of epic proportions to try and subjugate the Irish one last time tbh. Epic proportions.

[–] JJROKCZ 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, Ireland doesn’t have the resources or population to be involved in a continental conflict in a impactful way. Getting involved in a war you might not win and might result in the end of your small nation isn’t normally a good idea.

I don’t believe nato could lose a war with Russia, but I don’t blame Ireland for not wanting to risk it

[–] fidodo 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If Russia somehow won a war against NATO and took over all the European NATO countries, which is the vast majority of Europe, what would prevent them from just taking over the leftover bits at that point?

[–] khannie 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah neutrality is worthless at that point. Sure Hitler wasn't going to stop with the UK. We were definitely next.

The main advantage it has given us has been as a trusted UN peacekeeper where the Irish Defence Forces have been seen as a neutral third part to conflict and they have done and continue to do solid work abroad in that regard.

[–] mkwt 4 points 8 months ago

Doesn't Ireland already have defensive pact status with a bunch of NATO members through the EU? If your fellow EU states are being attacked, can you really stay out?