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Tinder to ban web developers who use 'engineer' in their bio (www.theolognion.com)

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[–] AstridWipenaugh 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As someone in the US, 40 hours per week is the minimum. Recognition for "being a hard worker" has required 60+ hours at some places I've worked. This is for a fixed salary and no overtime pay, mind you. Then you're usually on an on call rotation every few weeks where you may have to work off-hours if something comes up. That's additional unpaid hours. My current company pays $80,000 USD for new college grad software developers.

US holidays are 8-10 days, and junior devs usually start with 5-10 days of vacation. Health insurance costs at least several hundred a month (your employer also pays about 3x more than you towards your insurance premium as a benefit).

[–] chakan2 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're actually getting applicants at 80k? That's nuts. Last I checked fresh outs were clearing 100k.

[–] AstridWipenaugh 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Despite incessant reassurance from recruiting that they have the best market data and we're paying above average, I have reasons to suspect that's not the truth. One of them being we're hemorrhaging mid-grade talent and focusing on hiring backfills in Ireland and Hungary for much lower salaries. It almost seems like they're trying to offshore the dev group via attrition to work around having to do layoffs...

[–] chakan2 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Every HR department ever says that exact same thing. Even while the company is burning down and past bankruptcy.

Edit: For example, the fortune 50 I worked for insisted the same thing. Even when faced with industry data...they'd insist the Glassdoor and Indeed numbers were fake.

I left and got a 90% raise. That's not a joke number.