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My Razer Naga Pro died and I'm absolutely not buying another one for what it costs. But I also can't seem to find a replacement with the same sort of layout this one had. I'll link a picture, but I'm essentially looking for a mouse that has a lot of side buttons but still has a place for me to rest my thumb without having to worry about accidentally pressing buttons. I don't really like 12 button MMO style mice for this reason, as I constantly feel like I'm going to accidentally press a button. Any suggestions are appreciated.

Edit: I also want to note that I'm right handed, and I hate the feel of ambidextrous mice. I like being able to lay my hand on the mouse and know exactly where my fingers are supposed to go.

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[–] Soggy 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I bought a Roccat Kone XP a few months ago and I'm happy with it. I have large hands and there's room to tuck my thumb, and the special "shift" thumb button effectively doubles the inputs without jamming a small keyboard on the side.

Software has been more stable than Razer's garbage too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My Roccat is meh.
Had both the Kone AIMO and the Kova.

The Kova developed within 3 or 4 years mushy buttons of moderate gaming (teenager me about 2-3h daily gaming).
The Kone plastic became shiny within 4 years and creaked. Had to put a piece of folded paper under the shell to stop it from annoying me. Also it develops gamer gunk way too quickly compared the the MX master 2s/3 I use at work for 8h daily.
The MX 2s only had gunk on the mouse wheel and the coating was solid so far.
The 3 has a solid mouse wheel and without the jagged edges (compared to the 2s) doesnt aqumulate gunk as easily. Instead the rubber coating is now becoming a bit sticky after ~3 years on the thumb button. Still the buttons are solid.

Will probably switch to a logitech mouse similar to the Kone shape once I have enough from it.

About me: I use liquid soap, have usually dry hands and don't use moisturizer at all. My hands may get a bit sweaty during longer hours.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I'd like to ad that the aimo is relatively heavy so its not made for high level comp fps works fine apart from that though and can hold big hands

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Razer's software is only necessary to configure the mouse. It doesn't need to be running 24/7. It's also not "unstable" I've never had issues with it tbh.

[–] Kushan 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have sworn off razer products specifically because of their software. The most egregious thing is their software installation automatically popping up and blocking during a Windows installation (including certain major upgrades). I realise this isn't something that happens often, but setting off an install, then coming back a few hours later only to find a fucking razer EULA waiting for me to click accept before it'll carry on through the remaining 75% of the OS installation was the last straw.

At one point they required you to sign into an account to use the software and at another point they decided to revamp their software, which meant dropping support for my keyboard but I needed it for my mouse so I was in this lovely halfway state where I could use one and not the other? It was fucked. Fuck razer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Don't know if the windows installation issue is still a thing because I haven't formatted since I got my Razer DeathAdder v3 but their software (currently) doesn't require sign in, doesn't crash and you don't need to run it at startup.

I get that it might have been bad at some point in time but that doesn't mean it can't improve. I mean, it already has.

[–] Soggy 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Their shit crashed weekly and I couldn't access my mouse configuration presets. Crashed less often after I downloaded Razer's software hub as well but it meant another program at launch, another pointless account to log in and track, and still didn't work all the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know how far back you're talking about but I've had literally 0 crashes. Maybe it used to be worse but it works fine now.

Currently, you only need "razer synapse" and no, you don't need to run it at startup. Like I already said, you only need to open it if you want to change your device configuration or update the firmware. It also doesn't require any form of sign in.

[–] Soggy 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It was four months ago, Synapse was the program that didn't work right, and my presets would not load until I finessed Synapse into launching. This required running Cortex. Was a Deathadder Elite.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Something was wrong with your install. I don't need Synapse running at all and I've had this mouse since September 2023.

[–] Soggy 1 points 9 months ago

Well I tried reinstalling the software and the drivers and nothing fixed it except starting Cortex before Synapse. And then the mouse started dropping clicks so I binned it and I'm done with the company for the forseeable future.