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Can someone explain me, why is it bad to think about yourself? This book teaches you, how to first think about yourself, than others.
She(or Nathan) wrote, that if you do something with "I want this, so I do this" manner, that isn't great. The formula should be "This should be done, because of some rational reasoning, so I'll do this". If you are not involving others right to think/live/freedom.
Ayn Rand is a dumbass that encourages atomization of humanity, when humans are a social species. Placing the self over the whole is where we get fascism.
Where she states about atomozation? In her books her heroes communicate with each other, drinking and go lazy. They can't communicate with people not their kind, 'cause they get real bored. I doubt you can talk and dance with people you are not interested in.
Yet again, they don't put themselves above others, they mostly don't judge at all. They state facts and that's it, no hostility involved.
It's the subtext of her works.
All she was rooting for, do what you like, if it respects people right to live. There is no atomatization subtext in her works. If you can provide quotes with explanation, than we can discuss it
Atomization, ie everyone is capable of being entirely separated from society. That's her subtext, it's individualistic to the point of absurdity.
Damn, I was reading wrong, sry.
She doesn't propagate atomism, it's always about thinking. If you feel better without communicating, why should you? In case of fountainhead main heroes feel better when communicating with same-minded for example. So she writes about social aspects
Yes, in a fascist manner.
Please, provide a quote from the book with chapter and a page which propagates atomism in a fascist manner. Or at least explain the situation from the book
You described it yourself. Her point is to try to remove humans from the rest of society, and instills a superiority complex over the outgroup. She was a deranged fascist.
Her groups are not superior in anyway, she never said this. And again, please provide quotes