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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

lol love it. Every single time without fail, people will find an excuse for why iT WoULd jUsT nEVeR wOrK HErE!

Although I will admit I haven’t heard this one before. Kudos for being original I guess?

[–] Cryophilia 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You've never heard of strike breakers? Pinkertons? Battle of Blair Mountain?

I mean that's just your own ignorance at this point

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

“You’ve never heard of water? Why would you start a fire?”

What kind of logic is that?

[–] Cryophilia 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not saying he's right, I'm saying it's absurd that you've never heard of the battles against unions in the US.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

lol why would that matter if you didn’t agree with him? What’s your point?

And FYI, I read a book called “Inventing the Pinkertons,” aaallll about the company since their inception, from the Allen who chased outlaws and fabricated an assassination plot against Lincoln to boost his company, through to his sons who took over and became the supreme anti-labor army.

How did you not know about Allen Pinkerton actually being pro labor and fleeing Scotland for his involvement in a labor movement there?

Now—I don’t know if you knew this. But this is to give an example of how stupid your comment has been because you have no idea what I know about the pinkertons and the history of labor conflict and nothing I said would give you any reason to think I don’t know what you’re referencing.

[–] Cryophilia -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You literally said it.

Although I will admit I haven’t heard this one before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

As an excuse. As an excuse. You’ve never heard someone say “I’ve never heard that one before?” It’s a very common phrase. You should write it down, it’ll become useful sometime later for you, I’m sure.

But I’ll tell you what kills the labor rights movement way more effectively than strike breakers, militarized police victimizing picketers, and a private detective agency from the turn of the century that has since changed so much as to basically not exist in that function anymore, is never striking in the first place.

I swear to fuckin god, there is some insanely backwards thinking every single time a strike is brought up. And it’s almost uniform. But modern people have come to think of general strikes as a thing that’s just not possible anymore. They don’t need a modern day Pinkertons. They have you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's called history. Look in south america lmao if you guys go left, the US will coup you. You can try. Good luck

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is such insane logic.

“People will fight against you if you stand up for yourself. What are you thinking?”

Your suggestion is…what exactly? Don’t try to fight for what’s right because it comes with a cost? I just don’t understand people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

No don't get me wrong I wish that could happen and I'd be all for it. My point is that if you're waiting for that while voting for liberals, you might wait a while. But you're right, I am being defeatist. Take care <3