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Pakistan woman in Arabic script dress saved from mob claiming blasphemy (www.bbc.com)

submitted 6 months ago by MicroWave to c/worldnews

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An angry mob in Pakistan accused a woman who wore a dress adorned with Arabic calligraphy of blasphemy, after mistaking them for Quran verses.

She was saved by police who escorted her to safety after hundreds gathered. She later gave a public apology.

The dress has the word "Halwa" printed in Arabic letters on it, meaning beautiful in Arabic.

Blasphemy is punishable by death in Pakistan. Some people have been lynched even before their cases go on trial.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but this is equally a problem in European and North American countries, too. So they are in no position to "educate" our populations on how to do democracy. They just need to stop supporting anti-democratic forces and engage with our countries based on their professed democratic principles rather than geopolitical interests.

[–] angrymouse 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We didn´t disagree, ppl is being demobilized by the destruction of public debate spaces like unions, this happened, and still happens in some places, with countries in development by force and now is happening in developed countries by propaganda. I feel you think I'm talking about some kind of professoral propaganda like another brick in the wall when I talk about education, but I'm actually talking about Paulo Freire kind of education. I wasn't in any point trying to say that ppl should be teached about democracy and how they should vote but that they should been given the tools to create their own debates and their own way to experience democracy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I guess my disagreement is that Western countries are in no position to give these tools because they have not undergone that process themselves. The master's tools will not dismantle the master's house, etc

[–] angrymouse 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I guess my disagreement is that Western countries are in no position to give these tools

But my first comment was actually criticizing westerns that think they know better how any development country should work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

True but it also suggested that democracy cannot work in these countries at all.

how democracy could work in countries like that? You will always descend to things like Modi

To which I replied that it is not trying to institute democracy that causes this, but rather supporting dictatorships and anti-democratic actors, which is what western powers have been doing.

But good to know there is little we disagree about on this topic besides phrasing and perhaps our degree of optimism about the democratic process, or lack thereof.

[–] angrymouse 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You are right, I was trying to say that I think democracy in the western way would not work in the current institutional situation, not that would not work at all. I phrased it badly.