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Perhaps the best thing would be to say "illegal immigrants"
The majority of legal immigrants know the struggle to become citizens, but also don't want to feel like they wasted time because of what's happening currently.
"You want to come to the United States? Go for it, just do it by the book"
"Do it by the book" when your life is in danger is supposed to be coming to the border and requesting asylum. And these days, that means "fuck you, go back and die."
Or get dumped in another state as some sort of political theater when you came in legally as an asylum seeker…
That’s true for a Mexican asylum seeker but for others, Eg Venezuelans recently, they have to pass through like 6 other countries before coming to the US border.
Most everyone comes to the US for one primary reason and I would be doing the same if I were them.
Coming legally is almost impossible.
There is no such thing as an "illegal immigrant" in this country. It is not illegal to be in the US without papers, no matter if you entered legally or not. And "entering legally" means going through a checkpoint. You have to do that regardless of whether you're a citizen or not. Plenty of undocumented immigrants enter legally and then overstay their visa, which is not a crime in the US. It's literally not part of the criminal code.
Er, people absolutely do enter through non-checkpoints. And it is a crime, though IIRC it’s a misdemeanor. At least argue in good faith.
Of course, but that doesn't determine whether you're documented or not. You can be undocumented and have entered through the proper checkpoints. Or you can be a citizen and enter illegally. Entering illegally is a misdemeanor, and it does not make you an illegal immigrant. In fact, nothing makes you an illegal immigrant in the US because legally that concept simply does not exist. Congress would have to change that.