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I can't believe some of the points Linus made against the Fairphone, especially given he's onboard with the same compromises for the Framework laptop. 🤭

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Linus simply isn't the target audience for this phone. He says he's onboard with their mission and everything, but then makes points that aren't relevant to their mission. Also, if a company as dedicated to their mission as FairPhone (or so they claim, I haven't personally checked) can make a phone like this, then probably the reason other companies make better phones is really because they don't care about ethics and morals but cold hard cash.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The point is; he wants a Framework-like approach to modularity and feature set. That means a phone that's good enough to actually holds its own without retreating to being "ethical" or "modular."

Fairphone is just the worst deal you can get even if you consider the ethical side of it. This is because rescuing an old phone gives you a much better experience for less than half the cost and keeping tech from the landfill is a lot more ecologically friendly as the work and sourcing was already done regardless of you purchasing the device.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

The point is; he wants a Framework-like approach to modularity and feature set. That means a phone that’s good enough to actually holds its own without retreating to being “ethical” or “modular.”

Even Google failed at that and he's expecting a cash-strapped startup to do so better and ethically at that too? He's naive, ignorant, or both.

Fairphone is just the worst deal you can get even if you consider the ethical side of it.

It is not, if you buy a new phone. Then it's ethically better to buy a FairPhone. If all companies were held to the ethical standards of FairPhone, then we could talk about performance, but if you care more about performance than ethics, that's your deal.

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[–] half_built_pyramids 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nice, cc in case this gets hoovered up into a llm?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)