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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Markup languages.

Which were done as such to allow people to write a sentence on each line in their editor, remember notepad etc. doesn't wrap lines so you've got to scroll all the way over to read your lines.
This became the de-facto way of formatting most things, and it's easier to do newlines like that than using a br tag (and html tags generally) which are cringe af

Note you can also do a smaller newline with two spaces at the end of the preceding line

[–] Buddahriffic 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Notepad has had View->Word Wrap for a long time if you want soft word wrap instead of having to use a hard one.
I didn't know you could add two spaces to get a single newline to work though. Is that part of html or the formatting for this site?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Formatting for pretty much any forum...

[–] Buddahriffic 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The place the question is coming from is that I've implemented forum commenting from scratch before and it was trivial to get newlines behaving the same way in the edit box and when they are displayed and I've never seen the benefit of leaving it the way it is other than the case where a user uses hard newlines for word wrap instead of the soft wrap built into pretty much every browser's edit box.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, in fact it's actually easier, but it's also just not desired behaviour.

If you want a wysiwyg editor, feel free to implement it as an alternative setting, or it may even already exist, but forums populated by nerds have markdown for a very long time because it works well, is faster and more convenient once you know what you're doing with it and above all else the nerds (frankly rightly) they get mad when you take it away, see how much hate Confluence gets for example.

[–] Buddahriffic 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm still mostly just confused as to what the use case is for that newline thing specifically. I get the idea behind a plaintext editor that can handle more complex text formatting (and get frustrated a lot with editors that try to guess what formatting I want as a type), but I don't get why anyone would champion "I want to be able to hit enter as I'm inputting text without that showing up in the final output". Is that just the way it behaves because that's how it behaved in the past and people are used to it or is there a use case (or set of use cases) where this behaviour is desirable?