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[–] [email protected] 66 points 10 months ago (6 children)

What's crazy to me is Putin had such an opportune chance to control the narrative and try to pull the far right to his side. He could have done this by speaking to anti-LGBTQ stuff or talk about traditional families. But instead he spent his time talking about a perverse Russian history that some how blames Poland for Hitler's aggression.

Putin had a chance to control the narrative, but instead ranted on like a crazy old man. So win for the west, but what a strange story.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, I don't think it matters what he spews. One-in-four Americans already have a positive view of Putin. I think he's got the crazy demographic already locked down.

[–] MightyGalhupo 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Please tell me that’s not actually true

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wish I could lie to you. To give you sweet, comforting fictions.

[–] MightyGalhupo 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

To what has the world has come to…

[–] Mikelius 29 points 10 months ago

Because he knows it doesn’t matter, he’s taking a figurative verbal shit on fucker carlson and it’s a flex on his part. He knows it’s bullshit, he knows that we (non qult idiots) know that it’s bullshit and it’s him basically going “look at these imbeciles swallowing the shit I feed and what are they going to do about it?”

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

But instead he spent his time talking about a perverse Russian history that some how blames Poland for Hitler’s aggression.

This was a message towards German fascists; he's dangling the Königsberg-carrot (and other former German territories in the east) in front of them. He'd really like Germany to be on his side.

It becomes more clear what Russian strategy is when you consider Medvedev's interview where he speaks about Lviv and he mentions how Poland could support an Ukrainian remnant with Lviv as its capitol. Complete and utter bullshit, the message is simply "Poland and Lviv".

And I'm betting that Putin promised Orban he gets the south-western parts of Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Well Orban seems 100% on Putin's side regardless. I guess I don't know enough about Germany to know if that's something their far right wants, but wouldn't surprise me. And I suppose that all makes more sense since the far right in USA is clearly on his side already.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

The interview was several hours, very few people actually watched it. The only thing that matters is that "Putin was open to being interviewed" even though that perspective is missing the important details like how Putin has avoided interviews from anyone else for the past few years because anyone but Tucker Carlson is going to ask hard questions and confront him with unpleasant facts.

[–] kava 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Putin cares infinitely more about Russian domestic opinion than American public opinion. He had a few good moments in there where he belittles Tucker that are going to be clipped and shared all over Russian media.

He started this off very quickly with calling Tucker a talk show host causing Tucker to laugh awkwardly amd nervously. Speaking of that, I was surprised at Tucker's nervousness. I guess he felt the whole world was watching him or something and he choked a bit.

Not as easy to seem like you're centered and wise when you're not reading a script on your own TV show.

[–] Blue_Morpho 6 points 10 months ago

Speaking of that, I was surprised at Tucker’s nervousness.

The interview wasn't on the ground floor.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

He doesn't need to pander. The far right will ally with anyone they think will give them a leg up over their real or perceived opponents.