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I'm using a Pixel 6 Pro right now, and I'm looking around to see if there are any good phones. However, I have heard that there are ads in the newer flagship phones (Samsung, Xiaomi). I am willing to spend around USD$750 on a new phone, but I just don't want any crazy ads or preinstalled apps like Facebook. Are there phones that don't suck nowadays? I can buy a phone that is sold in the US, Canada, or EU.

(I don't want to go through menus to disable ads (Xiaomi), and I'm currently looking at phones other than the Pixel lineup to see if there's a better option for me)
(I also don't want to mess around with custom bootloaders/systems, I rely on Google services way too much)

EDIT: If it wasn't clear enough, I am not looking for things like GrapheneOS or LineageOS or others, I am looking for a phone and judging based on the stock system on it.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (14 children)

Yep, Pixel is the best phone to get the most Google free experience for those that seek it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (13 children)

Depends on your usecase and your country of living. Why do I say so? I will name my 2 points:

  1. Lack of sd card. Yes I need my sd card, I don't want to upload stuff online on a 400kbps connection or download on a 16mbps connection. It's not a good experience.

  2. Not officially sold in my country, only available rarelly in resellers for 200+ euro more than normally.

[–] j4k3 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Pixel has a Trusted Protection Module like computers with secure boot. No phone hardware in existence is documented at the hardware level. This is how planned obsolescence is created and why you have to buy a new phone every few years.

With a TPM chip it becomes possible to run signed and secured code on top of untrusted hardware and underlying software. Without this, your security is very limited in practice. Graphene OS is verifiably secure and only runs what you put on it.

The entire Android system is designed for people to use when they have no clue how to secure a device themselves and when they are far too incompetent to learn. The way this is done is to delegate a lot of permissions to app developers. This gives a lot of freedom to the apps you run. They can exploit the hell out of you within their little sandbox of vague permissions. Graphene does everything possible to limit what is happening in the background and the exploitations. It is default privacy.

I do not purchase phones as hardware any more. I don't care what is sold by any of the exploitation clowns. I shop for my ROM and buy a device that is well supported by that project. I've owned several Graphene OS devices and am happy with them. I had a Lineage device I liked too awhile back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I had a Lineage device

Lineage OS is not a secure ROM, as a matter of fact the way it is hacked makes it a security nightmare, but you can breath new life to old devices and install adblockers that need root and set other features that allows you to avoid ads and Google, which is nice.

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