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I want to donate to a linux phone. I believe in linux and I want a linux phone. Maybe we can use one in very few years as a normal daily driver. It's getting closer and closer every month.

I want to donate that we get there sooner. But which project? I'm following postmarket but I'm not sure if they are the most promising. What's your stance on this? To which project would you give your money to accellerate it?

Edit: I don't want to buy a phone. I want to support the phone os devs. Sorry for the bad wording.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

An Android phone isn't what's referred to when people say "Linux phone". What they're referring to is a phone running GNU/Linux, typically running one of the GNU/Linux phone shells/desktop environments.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I know and what I'm saying is that all those project are moving very slowly while projects like GraphneOS/LineageOS already offer open, privacy oriented phones with good hardware and lot's of apps. This is simply where more effort is going, where we're seeing more progress and our best chance at getting "Linux phones".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I know

Apparently not.

projects like GraphneOS/LineageOS ... our best chance at getting "Linux phones".

To repeat myself: an Android phone (for example, running GrapheneOS or LineageOS) isn't a "Linux phone".

[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not necessarily, F-droid combined with Lineage os or other free software ROM gives you the same freedoms are the Linux desktop does.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can't even compile any of those FOSS apps without running propietary build of Android SDK. No one managed to build current versions of Android SDK from the source code yet.

Android is like one big blob and changing anything in it require giant effort. Meanwhile making new feature for a Linux phone with common Linux tech stack is super easy and any mid-tier developer can change something in Phosh for example.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't believe that is the case

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Which one? Android SDK source is under Apache licence, but binaries are under EULA. There were some efforts to properly package it under free licencje, but currently no one do it.

As for Android being giant blob, maybe not the best word but it really is barely available to change. If I want to add a new feature to the UI, I need to build whole ROM again and deal with Google's developing platforms. While on Linux you can get the code for a component from some GitHub/Codeberg and modify/reinstall just that component.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

What you've said here doesn't contradict what I said. A phone running Lineage OS is explicitly not what people are referring to with the phrase "Linux phone".