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[–] Kaput 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Proton, has email, cloud storage and VPN services.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'll second Proton. It sucks to have to pay for services again to have something that matches the generous free shit that we got before... but seems those wild west days of the internet, unless you were grandfathered on or have to give up a lot of info in return... are now long gone.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

If you're not paying for a service, then you're the product. I never understood the expectation that people should just provide you email and storage for free, because?

[–] WhatAmLemmy 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This saying is actually horseshit, though. The profit motive and infinite growth model of capitalism guarantees that even if you are paying for a product, your data and attention — everything that can be — will be monetized eventually.

The saying should be "if the service isn't open-source and E2E encrypted, you're the product"

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago

Nah I'd disagree. Infinite growth motive doesn't necessarily apply to private companies. To suggest there's unbridled greed present in every company is just a falsehood.

[–] TheGrandNagus 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It should be noted, though, that the "if you aren't paying, you're the product" mantra isn't always true. FOSS exists.

And I know that seems obvious to anybody reading this on Lemmy, but I've had people refuse to use good open source software because they fundamentally refuse to trust something being provided to them for free.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That applies to the software itself, sure, but only if you bring your own infrastructure. Large scale FOSS infrastructure services are going to be the exception not the norm.

[–] rdyoung 8 points 9 months ago

You can also feel good about supporting Proton. They are literally bootstrapped as a service and only rely on what we pay them. They never took any money from vc or other sources.

If you have more than one person who should/would/could move over to Proton, they have a family plan and every so often they bring back their visionary plan which is a better version of the family.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm particulay looking for.the functionality of Google Photos, not just a cloud storage solution but a photo catalogue integrated with my camera among other things. Does Proton offer this?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There is a self hosted alternative for google photos if you have NAS. I don't remember the name and it's not nextcloud but that project have web and mobile apps to sync and they catalog photos with face and name similar to google. If you are specifically looking for storing and syncing photos mega.nz is decent but pricey alternatively pClound offers one time purchase during holiday season which is much more affordable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Immich, is probably what you’re thinking of.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, thanks for reminding the name.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

PhotoPrism is kind of that thing on self hosted NAS.

Or alternatively both biggest NAS makers Synology and Qnap have their own things for that.

[–] GustavoFring 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, Ente has more photo gallery functionality though. Not sure about it being "integrated" with the camera. What do you mean by this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The photos I take on my cellphone are instantly catalogued, scanned for metadata, and synchronized with my gallery. The app then gives me fun photo displays and reminders of my past daily.

I do nothing but take photos and pay a small fee.