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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I get the criticism about production, plot, and dialogue decisions. I mean, I agree on quite a few of them. But a good chunk of the detractors are on the hate bandwagon because they just can't stand women/minorities getting representation, and those dumbfucks need to GTFO. It's Trek, for fuck's sake. Yeah, Discovery is different, but I still dig the show.

[–] Telodzrum 12 points 9 months ago

You're spot on. I have so many issues with the storytelling methodology, the decisions about how to treat the ST Universe and its canon, the use of the characters to tell the stories they chose, and more; but, it has been so hard to voice legitimate criticism of the show and the creators' decisions because you always seem to end up lumped in with a bunch of chuds who are just upset about the diversity in the cast (which blows my mind, because it's no more groundbreaking than a lot of other Trek, relative to the time of airing).

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm with most people I've seen express a big meh for the show.

That show is only Star Trek by name. It's got its own thing going (more science fantasy than science fiction), which isn't my thing, especially not when you're looking for a Star Trek fix which always had a nack for playing with real science but sticking with the plausibility of it.

I enjoy the other Star Trek show(s) and The Orville much more to get that.

So I watch them.

This constant "they are haters because minorities/women/other representation" is getting tired. It's a couple loudmouth incels that have that sort of criticism and people like you seem to love getting baited in then saying everyone that doesn't enjoy what you enjoy must be with them.

[–] Stamets 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That show is only Star Trek by name

God, I'm so fucking tired of this line. This shit was said about the movies, and TNG, and DS9, and VOY, and ENT and the Kelvin movies. Everytime it's wrong.

[–] FlyingSquid 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You could hide the words 'Star Trek' and 'Enterprise' from TOS and TNG and people would not know they were part of the same franchise.

[–] Stamets 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

For real. None of the ships look familiar. The fuckin badge/delta doesn't even look the same. Tech is all kinds of different. Whole new warp scales. New command hierarchy with the previous divisions being changed.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They fucking changed the klingons!

[–] Stamets 5 points 9 months ago

I saw the post this comment was made on, not realizing the context at first, and openly sighed and said "Like they did for the TOS movies and TNG?" Refreshing to see someone else saying that <3