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[–] NOT_RICK 108 points 5 months ago (38 children)

I don’t find it weird for hunting, but giving a child unrestricted access to firearms is insane to me given children are not able to assess risk the same way adults do.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 5 months ago

A lot of "adults" don't seem to assess the risks either.

[–] MotoAsh 45 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Oh, I don't mean temporary custody under controlled and hopefully educated circumstances, but those who hand it over completely. A kid simply does not need that power nor have the responsibility for full time custody.

Hell, the government wants people 18+ before they'll hand someone a gun and let them go die for something...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (9 children)

Smoking and drinking age is 21. Maybe gun ownership age should be bumped up too.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hell, the government wants people 18+

No, I'm pretty sure that was some ancient Christian pro-lifers who came up with that rule. Government would take people younger if they could.

[–] MotoAsh 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"... if they could."

Yea that's kinda' EXACTLY the point... they CAN make it that way, but haven't. The entire point is that modern Republicans are far more despicable than most any kind of politician from history. Yes, that includes slavers.

It takes an entire additional level of evil to step BACK IN TO social problems, and that's 100% of the modern GOP platform: bring back problems that were already solved.

[–] BeardedBlaze 2 points 4 months ago

They'll take you at 17 with parent's permission.

[–] devnull406 16 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Before he passed away, my kids' grandfather bought all his grandkids their first 22 rifle. Some of the cousins were still infants but he wanted to buy them something. He was a prolific hunter and marksman. My kids guns all lived in the safe until they were old enough to shoot them, and now they live in the safe when not in use. You can give guns to kids all day long, that's not the problem and the gun is not the problem.

[–] III 7 points 4 months ago (22 children)

You can give guns to kids all day long, that’s not the problem and the gun is not the problem.

The problem is not appropriately assessing whether the child in question she be allowed the gun. Are they responsible, are they going to use it for valid purposes. This holds true for, well, everyone always. A lack of reasonable regulation is the actual problem. I am glad you have responsibly managed the distribution and use of firearms for your children. We should do that for everyone.

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[–] UltraMagnus0001 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

"A lot of "adults" don't seem to assess the risks either."

Your frontal lobe on average fully develops at 25 and for some when they're older.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3129331/

[–] AFaithfulNihilist 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That is when your brain stops really growing and developing, it's not some threshold of social or intellectual maturity.

If anything, people become less adaptable, less open-minded, and less cooperative after that. It's not something we get to lord over young people, it's a mark against us olds for being less capable of growth.

[–] UltraMagnus0001 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Decision Making and Reward in Frontal Cortex

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3129331/

Your frontal lobe contains brain areas that manage who you are — especially your personality — and how you behave. Your ability to think, solve problems and build social relationships, sense of ethics and right vs. wrong all rely on parts of your frontal lobe.

Experts know this because of a railroad foreman named Phineas Gage. In 1848, an accidental explosion at a railroad construction site propelled an iron rod through Gage’s head, destroying the left side of his frontal lobe. Before the accident, Gage was a calm, respected leader among his coworkers. Gage survived, but after the accident, his personality changed. He would lose his temper, act disrespectfully and constantly use profanity.

However, Gage’s personality changes weren’t permanent. Four years after his accident, Gage moved to Chile in South America and became a stagecoach driver. Somewhere in late 1858 or early 1859, a doctor who examined Gage said he was physically healthy and showed “no impairment whatever of his mental faculties.”

While Gage mostly recovered from the accident, he died from seizures in San Francisco in 1860. The seizures were very likely the result of damage from the accident. However, his case remains one of the most useful in modern medicine’s understanding of what the frontal lobe does, especially when it comes to your personality.

The Pre-Frontal Cortex

One of the biggest differences researchers have found between adults and adolescents is the pre-frontal cortex. This part of the brain is still developing in teens and doesn't complete its growth until approximately early to mid 20's. The prefrontal cortex performs reasoning, planning, judgment, and impulse control, necessities for being an adult. Without the fully development prefrontal cortex, a teen might make poor decisions and lack the inability to discern whether a situation is safe. Teens tend to experiment with risky behavior and don’t fully recognize the consequences of their choices.

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