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You know what, you're right. Ukraine should just expend all their resources until they're so weak they can't hold back the Russian military at all and the entire country should be conquered. Or they can win and become a US puppet state. Both solutions are better than losing a small amount of land that they've been shelling since 2012 and where most of the population is unhappy with how they're living. Also, fuck Crimea, they shouldn't have fresh water either. Give that land back to Ukraine so they can dam the only water supply to the region. As long as the US state department makes all the money, I don't give a fuck what happens. I hope they all fight til they're dead or in chains. Slava Ukraini!
If you what you claimed before that you know the Russian mindset, then you should already have known Russia will just use the lull period to attack again. There were those who are naive or missing the big picture by advocating to make peace and concessions with Hitler before. Just saying.
More will lose than just land by making peace with Putin. Nice spin though with pushing the narrative of military industry complex and Pentagon benefiting (duh), except supporting Ukraine is a just war. But as I suspected, you still are not calling out Russian elite benefiting from the war but only demonise the US. If what I heard is true, Russian elites raked in millions from the conflict. I don't hear you specifically call out Russia if you truly are "enlightened centrist"
First off, no matter how much you hate Putin, he's not Hitler. The Russian mindset is very simple, it's basically just apply the US mindset to them but less efficient. It's the standard capitalist imperialist mindset. And I'm not saying anything bad about Russia because it's not necessary for this conversation. You already know why Russia's bad so it would be redundant. I'm not a centrist at all either. I'm a leftist. Real far leftist. Like, the farthest left you get.
First off, no matter how much you hate Putin, he's not Hitler.
No, but they both lied about not having plans to invade another country, and then did so after some days.
And yet you kept harping about Ukraine being goaded to join NATO without palpable evidence. Russia is the one who keeps provoking Ukraine, prompting the latter to demand accession to NATO after the annexation of Crimea.
With all that being said, you're the person this meme pokes fun at.
Oh, so you never read that link I sent. Here, I'll send it again: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93NATO_relations It's literally been going on since the collapse of the Soviet Union. As for Russia invading multiple countries, that hasn't happened. The last country they invaded before Ukraine was Georgia in 2008. So no, they haven't done a Hitler. This is the problem with getting all your history lessons from memes.
Again, military exercise does not mean alliance. Get your reading comprehension improved.
And again, Putin said he won't invade but did anyway. But go on, be the vatnik that this meme ridicules.
What military exercise are you on about? Please stop larping as a Ukrainian freedom fighter, you dork