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[–] BenLeMan 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If I remember my constitutional law classes correctly, conscription was canned after a series of Supreme Court cases where conscientious objectors successfully argued that under the 1st amendment they could not be made to serve. Since "religion" is very loosely defined in the US, pretty much anyone can claim that conscription violates their free exercise of a peace-loving religion.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Hm thanks.

Can you expand on what “canned” means?

[–] NielsBohron 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

IANAL, but in this context, it means "disposed of," or "abolished," probably based on some usage involving "throwing [something] in the trash can," just like one might say something was "binned" in the UK.

It can also mean "fired (from a job)," as in "Donny showed up to work drunk, so he got canned."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a somewhat informal "discarded."

[–] BenLeMan 3 points 10 months ago

It is, and I apologize if my informality caused any confusion. Good night!

[–] BenLeMan 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

During the Vietnam era, several people used the 1st Amendment to avoid getting drafted. To quote Wikipedia, "United States v. Seeger, 1965, ruled that a person can claim conscientious objector status based on religious study and conviction that has a similar position in that person's life to the belief in God, without a concrete belief in God.[4] United States v. Welsh, five years later, ruled that a conscientious objector need have no religious belief at all." Widespread opposition to the draft during the Vietnam era led to official termination of the draft system in 1973. Since 1980, adult males are again required to register for military service in case their country enters a state of war. But there is no real punishment for failing to sign up, and the country hasn't officially been at war since 1945.

Edit: sorry I can't get the quote to work and it's late at night here. This'll have to do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

No that’s perfect thank you.