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I've just pulled the trigger on a dock and I'm thinking it may be time to upgrade my external controller. I have a Logitech F710 which has been pretty decent for PC gaming and has worked well on Linux. I'm seeing the Xbox XS as a top recommendation. Is it worth the upgrade?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I replaced my broken Logitech F710 with a PS5 Controller.

The only advantages of the PS5 controller are gyro support, saving a USB port, and USB-C charging.

I'd stick with the Logitech F710.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having a touchpad to use as a mouse is huge

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it one of those things that looks good on paper or is it actually useful in day to day playing?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

As someone with all Sony consoles... it's good, but even first party titles barely use it. Usually it's just used as a button, sometimes multiple (GT7 gives you turn indicators to the sides and emergency blinkers on the center, for example).

As a track pad it's honestly a perfectly fine one. That said! PS4 and PS5 ones are very similar from the point of view of pc gaming, you get the usb port to be a type C, haptic feedback instead of the ancient rumble motors and uh what dumb name they gave to the triggers... adaptive triggers? Cool tech. So in short right now you get rumble that works different and in the future will be better as games start to use it, a better usb, and triggers that only Sony games use right now.

For comparison the Xbox Series controller have the ancient rumble motors (so in other words Steam/Sony/Nintendo are haptic, Microsoft isn't) that every game has been using since the rumble pack/Dual Shock, it has no track pad, no motion sensor, and rumble triggers that are kinda dumb but in Forza Horizon 5 they are extremely good at making you feel the loss of grip. If you have no preference about the shape, Sony gives you the most advanced and complete hardware that will give you the full experience in titles that can use it, all for the same price. Downside, there's a shitton of stuff in there and the triggers have a motor each, so the battery won't last as long. Also pretty rgb lol.

I also have an 8BitDo one shaped like the Sony ones and it's good. Simple tech, barebones, works well. Less expensive.

Right now if I could have the perfect controller it would be the PS5 one but with hall effect sticks that are touch sensitive like the Deck's ones, plus the rear buttons. Damn near the PS5 pro controller tbh.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's useful for navigating menus in games/apps that are designed for keyboard/mouse. I can't say I ever use the touchpad in-game like you would the touchpads on the Steam Deck itself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you. I think I'm dealing with a case of Ooh Shiny!