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pluralistic: the alarmism around AI is just a marketing spin. (pluralistic.net)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/technology

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The alarmism around AI is just a marketing spin.

As @[email protected] wrote: that's "mystical nonsense about spontaneous consciousness arising from applied statistics".

Real problems we face with AI are:

Ghost labor, erosion of the rights of artists, costs of automation, the climate impact of data-centers and the human impact of biased, opaque, incompetent and unfit algorithmic systems.

https://pluralistic.net/2023/11/27/10-types-of-people/

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[–] Womble 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

We dont have anything that passes the Turing test. The test isnt just "does it trick people casually talking to it into thinking its a person" its can it decieve a pannel of experts deliberately try to tease out which one of the "people" they are talking to isnt a human.

AFAIK no LLM has passed a rigourious test like that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

GPT4 ironically fails the Turing test by possessing such a wide knowledge on variety of topics that it's obvious it can't be a human. Basically it's too competent to be a human even despite its flaws

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This is my problem with the conversation. It doesn't "posses knowledge" like we think of with humans. It repeats stuff it's seen before. It doesn't understand the context in which it was encountered. It doesn't know if it came from a sci-fi book or a scientific journal, and it doesn't understand the difference. It has no knowledge of the world and how things interact. It only appears knowledgeable because it can basically memorize a lot of things, but it doesn't understand them.

It's like cramming for a test. You may pass the test, but it doesn't mean you actually understand the material. You could only repeat what you read. Knowledge requires actually understanding why the material is what it is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, and in no way could it. Just ask how many words are in its reply and it will say, "There are 37 words in this reply." It's not even vaguely convincing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, it should just say "Why would you ask me such a stupid question? Count them yourself."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Nobody is doing these tests, but it's not uncommon these days for mistaking something for being AI generated. Even in professional settings, people are hypervigilant.