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Alabama condemned for nitrogen gas execution: ‘They intended to torture him’
(www.theguardian.com)
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Psychological torture is still torture. Federal agents/Secret police/Military/etc. in many countries have been known to do all sorts of painless torture methods such as sleep deprivation and constant loud music. And then there are things like waterboarding, where it is almost certain that you won't die, but you will feel like you're drowning the entire time. It is torture even if you know you're going to live through the waterboarding.
Christopher Hitchens was waterboarded and wrote about how it was torture.
Torture does not have to be painful or even involve physical contact.
So if I'm sentenced to 20 years for first degree murder, is the fear and terror I feel over losing my freedom the state torturing me?
What about if my doctor's office refuses to give me my diagnosis over the phone on a Friday, and tells me I have to wait for an office appointment on Monday. Is that torture? Should I file a legal complaint or try to get charges pressed?
You're conflating internal agony and anticipatory fear, with actual externally applied methods of torture.
I understand what point you're trying to make, but words have meaning and if everything is torture, then how bad can torture really be?
If you redefine torture into any form of discomfort sure. But that is not what the word means.
"the action or practice of inflicting severe pain or suffering on someone as a punishment or in order to force them to do or say something."
So solitary is for sure torture. Normal prison shouldn't be but can for sure be in some cases. It's only slightly better than the corporeal punishments (lashes, stockade) of old in my opinion.
How would actually killing someone, with the person being killed being fully aware that it happens, as it happens. Not be "externally applied methods of torture"? Asphyxiation has been used as a method of torture for millennia.
I'd argue that depending on the victim that 'any form' of discomfort could be considered torture. What should define torture isn't a 'commonly accepted idea of torture' but what the victim considers torture. Some people are quite fine with not having any company for example, but other people if they were socially isolated would consider this a torture, especially for a protracted period of time.