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[–] makyo 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

These people can't be this braindead. It doesn't take a genius to understand that countries have to also recognize their political status to make it real in any way other in than their minds.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 4 points 9 months ago

They are SO batshit crazy.

[–] Beefcyclone 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is this just an America thing?

Only found out about it recently and it just seems bonkers, like in what state of mind do you have to be to think you can just wish away the laws of the country.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's also a thing in other countries. In the Netherlands there recently was a news article about someone who got financially ruined because she and her husband stopped paying taxes and rent because they claimed to be sovereign.

Probably imported the idea from the US, where it's much more visible.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

These morons have their own international online echo chambers where they convince each other this shit really works. At least until they find out it doesn't and that is when they direct their anger towards the state for somehow setting them up.

It's the same pattern we see in cults, conspiracies, religion and Apple fans. If there is a way not to be confronted with the truth, different beliefs or just simple opposition, their ideal version of reality will take hold and solidify.

It's a dangerous pattern that will only lead to more social unrest if we're not careful about it.

[–] BilboBargains 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nation states are a figment of our imaginations. There is no American particle or German substance. Sovereign citizen are just a low budget version of that particular game of make believe.

[–] makyo 3 points 9 months ago

Sure but the point is that for the American one to exist outside of its own little game, the German figment has to agree that it exists too.