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[–] PrefersAwkward 130 points 11 months ago (3 children)

When will these bugs be fixed? I prefer to face to the right and would also like to be able to sleep on my stomach

[–] cm0002 93 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The GitHub human branch maintainer peaced out forever ago, all attempts to establish communications aren't going so well and the issue tracker is piling up...so probably never

[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I mean if it's abandonware it's ethical to reverse engineer and open source the reverse engineered platform, maybe even fork it and provide some sort of extensible framework for various plugins, or convert the kernel to a new architecture or even virtualize it. Hopefully we can also work out the bugs and the more glaring issues soon (looking at you, upright vertebrae).

[–] cm0002 25 points 11 months ago

We're working on it, but the mf was on something, have you seen the digestive system class? Or the central nervous system class?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've heard some people managed to reverse engineer the human, though right now people are trying to figure out whether using a modded version is considered OP

[–] EvilHankVenture 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They decompiled the human, it doesn't mean they understand the code enough to mod it yet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Instead of modding, I know a few hackers that have removed whole sections to delete non functioning parts and I know a few others who figured out how to swap parts between different units.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

That's why you need to open source and freely distribute the mod.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Unfortunately I heard they forked it to the AI/ automation branch so I don't think that the original maintainers coming back. They're calling it the new best thing

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Some people have mirrored internal organs, so this advice may be the ophosite for you. But also, if it ain't broke don't fix it, sleep however's comfiest for you and lets you get the best sleep you can

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So about 800,000 people world wide?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure, round figures, lets call it 800K. And I bet the vast majority of them knows. It doesn't take much of an examination for a doctor to determine location of heart and liver.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

In fact many of them don't, since the body is mostly symmetrical and apart from cutting them open or doing an MRI, you can't really tell (which isn't a big deal in most cases, because most medical procedures work regardless of this condition). Also, the heart is located almost in the middle, so there is not much difference.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Listening to the chest with a stethoscope, or your ear will tell the location of the heart. Percussing over the liver, but not finding a solid structure e.g. liver, which sounds different than a hollow structure, e.g. lungs would also help in identifying unexpected organ locations. I'm curious how you came to know that many of them don't know? Do you keep a register of people with this condition, but don't tell them?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8901252/

It is difficult to provide a valid estimation of real frequency. There are only a few own observations in the literature and a lot of citations.

We performed a search in our radiologic database, looking for situs inversus as key words in the results. Between 2006 and 2020, 217,646 imaging examinations (ultrasound, CT and plain radiography) were performed at the Department of Transplantation and Surgery, Semmelweis University. Out of them, 21 cases were found, which represents a 1:10,000 frequency. This hospital-based prevalence rate best reflects Adams et al in 1937 (23:232,113), and Lin et al in 2000 (20:201,084) from Massachusetts, as data from own observations.26 This rate is similar as well to the population-based Baltimore-Washington Infant Study.12 SIT is slightly more frequent in males: 1.5:1.27

https://www.healthline.com/health/situs-inversus#symptoms

Because the condition seldom causes symptoms and is so rare, a person may not know they have it. And it may not be discovered until visiting a doctor for a different reason.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23486-situs-inversus

You may not develop any symptoms with situs inversus. Although your organs are reversed, they’re often still functional. So you wouldn’t notice any signs or complications.

Of course, trying to estimate how many people don't know about a disease is a difficult task, but the general consensus is the condition is rare and often doesn't produce any symptoms, as such there are definitely many people with the condition that haven't even ever heard of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Cool, so sticking with the stipulated incidence, 800K is indeed a lot. Thanks for the linx!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I've heard people talk about mirrored organs, is that something that would be immediately obvious? Like surely every person that has the condition would know about it.

[–] Jerb322 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Every time I've seen it in a hospital TV show or whatever, it always seems to be a surprise...like they didn't find out at birth but the first time they need some invasive procedures.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I knew someone once who had this, she didn’t know until she got an x-ray as an adult. The doctor called in their colleagues to take a look at the scan because he’d never seen a real-life case before. She had her heart on the right side of her chest, was pretty interesting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'd think so. You'd feel the urge to BM on the right rather than the left.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean if I put my hand over my left then right side of my chest, it's pretty clear which side my heart is on

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

True, though isn't the heart actually in the middle and it's just asymmetric (with the big body-pumping side on the left)?

[–] morphballganon 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Certainly not. It affects ~10% of the population, at least in certain countries. Not everyone has the privelege of a robust, accessible healthcare system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Well I guess the obvious one to me is feeling a heartbeat. It seems like that would come up even outside of the medical field (schools, "playing doctor", heck doing the pledge of allegiance if you're in the US)

[–] SuckMyWang 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This woman is dead. Her stomach is coming out of her body and her arms are under her esophagus