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You're Not Imagining It: Google Search Results Are Getting Worse, Study Finds::Google swears everything is fine. A new study—and many people's lived experience—says different.

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[–] sturlabragason 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Because I'm too lazy to do my own research; does someone have actual good experience with something else?

I'm using Brave search and it's good for most things if I add an extra keyword, but not good for local results.

Thanks in advance for all the Brave downvotes.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

DuckDuckGo finds some things. I'm no expert.

[–] sturlabragason 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I've heard people say that the answer is no, but in looking into it just now myself it looks like rather it is sometimes yes as well.

Basically the best way to describe it seems to be that it is "NOT Google, and MOSTLY does not want to be FULLY Bing (but still is somewhat, they're wanting to work on it, but to be clear they do have embedded Microsoft trackers that they are forced to leave in due to their licensing agreement)".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would NOT use it for shopping, I tried that recently and got a ton of really sketchy looking sites with way too cheap products that had no internet presence before this month. This might be more pronounced if you search specific product model numbers like I was rather than general terms.

I’ve had it be mostly okay on other stuff. I use it over Google but mostly because I don’t want to pay for a search engine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tbf, do those sketchy sites also show up with Google?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’d have to repeat the search to check again, but I don’t remember seeing the same sites when I repeated the search on Google, at least not on the first page in the top few spots the way it was on DDG.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So maybe that's the genius of DDG - you skip right past the predatory SEO-optimized sites straight away to the predatory sketchy ones:-D.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

LOL! Yeah I’m paranoid enough about buying from strange sites that it’s not a problem, and frankly I expect the AI generated SEO optimized spam to be more likely to be riddled with malware.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Hrm, maybe Google screens those, so they are more purely a waste of your time rather than something that can be actually reported to a federal agency? :-P Or perhaps it is just a better scam, to keep a site up there for longer = more clickbait dollars, with less risk of angering someone so much that they track the scammers down and send them a "package" of explosive fun!:-D (the easiest profits come when the harmed party does not even realize that they have lost anything)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I'm giving searx a try. There's a list of public instances here: https://searx.space/

[–] Buck 5 points 11 months ago

Https://qwant.com , a french privacy first search engine that has alright search results but great privacy control

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Duckduckgo has turned into to a google clone at this point i've found - you get pretty much identical results with the added aggravation you can't exclude keywords.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I'm disappointed with the number of brave downvotes you are receiving. Recommend you stop supporting Brave. Kagi has been really great, I've never looked back. I value ux, search, and privacy enough to feel it's worth the price.