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[–] LemmyIsFantastic 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's self inflicted. Americans don't buy inexpensive new cars. Now everything new is targeted at upper middle class and financing is expensive + pent up demand from COVID is exacerbating the issue pushing used buyers into the new market.

But you can still buy a Mitsubishi for under 20k and an Impreza for 22k. People don't.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Certified pre-owned lease returns! I’m on my second and they’ve both been great cars for $22k or under.

That said, a big contributor is the amount financed. When we’ve bought new cars we paid $7k up front for mine and $5k for my wife’s plus our trade ins. Many, if not most, people can’t afford to do that so they have huge monthly payments even before interest.

[–] Baines 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

22k for a used car seems like a bad deal

[–] LemmyIsFantastic 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Depends on how used, make, model, and trim. Not everyone is in a race to a bare bones compact.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

You got it. My first was a pretty basic sedan that I upgraded to from my old retired police Crown Vic. My current car was a two year old lease return in the top trim level available and ~15k miles.

[–] icedterminal 2 points 11 months ago

Key word in there is certified used.

Certified used means it comes with a warranty. My mother purchased a certified used Crosstrek. It was a returned lease. In fact most certified pre-owned vehicles are returned leases. The manufacturer powertrain warranty still applies and the dealer adds a warranty for everything else. She also had the option to purchase a manufacturer extended warranty because it still qualified, which she did. All for $24k. It's 2 years old, less than 10k miles. It's not a bad deal at all when you look at the bigger picture. The new cost of this Crosstrek in the configuration she got it in would have been $31k.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

People have been rolling negative equity into new car payments, and claiming to be smart because rates were so low... rates aren't low anymore and that risk is being realized.

Financing a car is a poverty trap.