this post was submitted on 15 Jan 2024
363 points (89.4% liked)

Political Memes

5231 readers
2464 users here now

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

Be civilJokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

No misinformationDon’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

Posts should be memesRandom pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

No bots, spam or self-promotionFollow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Here's the ACTUAL definition of racism:

"prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized."

Please get out of here with that "Only people in the dominant group can be racist" mumbo jumbo. That may be the more typical case, but it's not the only one. You (and the author of the sociology textbook you quoted) are EXACTLY the type of people OP was talking about, and that's why you're being downvoted here.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

You know how there is a scientific definition of theory that is different than the common usage of theory, and it is really confusing when two people are using the different definitions interchangeably?

Same thing with racism. More than one definition which causes confusion when used interchangeably.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

There's more to racism than a dictionary definition, you know that right? People didn't dedicate their lives to study the topic just for the fun of it. The realities of racism from the dominant group (white people in the west) and racism in the marginalized groups are very different. Racism is bad no matter where you fit in that spectrum but the harm done to certain (non-white) groups of people is more severe by several orders of magnitude

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What word would you use for the systemic oppression of racial minorities in America?

Do you feel white people experience systemic oppression? In what way?

Which racial group has historically been in control of the large structures in our society (government, large and wealthy corporations)?

If you’re wondering why I’m asking these questions, it’s because I think you’ve missed the point that the poster you’re responding to is making. You seem to be arguing about which words to use instead of noticing the wider topic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What word would you use for the systemic oppression of racial minorities in America?

That's easy: systemic racism. It easily avoids any dumb debates about what is meant by "racism" in a particular context.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Dictionaries are often treated as the final arbiter in arguments over a word's meaning, but they are not always well suited for settling disputes. The lexicographer's role is to explain how words are (or have been) actually used, not how some may feel that they should be used, and they say nothing about the intrinsic nature of the thing named or described by a word, much less the significance it may have for individuals. When discussing concepts like racism, therefore, it is prudent to recognize that quoting from a dictionary is unlikely to either mollify or persuade the person with whom one is arguing.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism