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[–] Jonna 68 points 11 months ago (12 children)

No.

This is a load of shit. Why it has up votes blows my mind.

Do some reading or watching of hunter gatherer societies and you'll see lots of group survival activities. Teamwork in hunts, in preserving food, in crafting tools, and making shelter.

If we were this self-centered, we wouldn't have such advanced communication, which is how we were able to do all those group activities.

Survival of the fittest is survival of those that cooperate.

[–] HonoraryMancunian 63 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Why it has up votes blows my mind.

Because it's funny? Honestly why your comment is so highly upvoted is blowing my mind, although I mean you no ill-will by that.

[–] Smokeydope 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Its part of the lemmy meta-game at this point is to take a joke super seriously and go on a psudo-intellectual rant about how the contents of the joke are the sum of everything wrong with humanity. Everyone needs their 5 minutes on the high horse

[–] BluesF 4 points 11 months ago

Hahah the whole idea of there being a meta for a discussion website (which there totally is lmao) is so fucking funny to me

[–] CosmicCleric 4 points 11 months ago

Honestly why your comment is so highly upvoted is blowing my mind, although I mean you no ill-will by that.

Ironically, both can be right, upvote wise.

[–] platypus_plumba 42 points 11 months ago

It's a comic strip, nobody is looking for historical accuracy here. The interaction is funny, that's it.

[–] painfulasterisk 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I agree, this is a load of shit. How do we know cavemen communicate in "good enough English" for us to understand?

[–] HonoraryMancunian 19 points 11 months ago

And the dude on the left is just so clean shaven. Honestly I can't believe everyone's falling for this

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

It's a comic about cavemen. It can be entertaining and interesting without being a complete representation of early human society. That said afaik there is evidence people in prehistory killed each other a lot.

[–] creditCrazy 12 points 11 months ago

So let me get this straight your angry that this comic about cave men learning that being selfish doesn't work. Has people that don't understand that being selfish doesn't work.

[–] daltotron 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I kind of read it more as the cavemen slowly coming to realize that they are both better off with mutual co-operation rather than that they are better off by simply being greedy, because the risk of the greed was too big. It was in their best self-interest to work with one another, i.e. they were both self-centered, and were still able to co-operate. Sort of some selfish gene type stuff, I guess.

[–] Drummyralf 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's so funny to me (in the positive way!) that your comment actually transforms this comic into a piece of art by giving it a social commentary (and by interpreting its meaning). And by making it art, you basically give the best counterpoint against "it's not historically accurate" .

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How is the one with the meat better off? He should have just merc'd the asshole that showed up demanding shit from him.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

He has a friend

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Stomach too full. Meat will go bad before eat all of it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So use it to enable someone who just threatened to kill you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Starvation will make you do crazy shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Still not smart to take chances on is this "starvation crazy shit" or just them being an asshole. Either way they threatened your life.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Survival of the fittest is survival of those that cooperate

The question nobody ever asks about survival of the fittest is what actually makes someone fit to survive?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That for nature to decide!

Today: Be faster than your prey!

Tomorrow: Have endothermic heat regulation so that you survive the asteroid impact that's going to blot out the sun!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Say what you will about the game, but IRL does a decent job of switching up the meta on a regular basis. Though it's pretty frustrating when you figure out a decent strat, and then next season it's useless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Natural selection "asks" this question all the time. What you see around you are the different answers ;)

[–] samus12345 1 points 11 months ago

Adaptability. Adapt or die.

[–] surewhynotlem 4 points 11 months ago

I don't doubt that some small (or not?) percentage of the population do think and act and vote this way.

The rest of us allow them to exist and breed and it will be the end of our species eventually.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They went from threatening to kill each other to sharing food, then contemplating trading more food in promise of later trades. This is a message of progress and cooperation. Extrapolating this forward, I have no doubt that this is the groundwork for the teamwork you describe. Any hesitancy along the way seems like no big deal to me.

[–] Mango 1 points 11 months ago

Have you seen Trump?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Tbf if you think each person here represents their own tribe, it's not a farfetched story. Tribal warfare happens all the time.

[–] Shou -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's normal for males, even in social species, to bully food from members weaker than them. Sharing food is a sign of accepting a lower status and avoiding conflict.

[–] Kase 4 points 11 months ago