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But at least he's stopped funding ICE and the border camps, stopped building Trump's wall, and closed Guantanamo, right?
I'd hate to think he'd be willing to be complicit in fascism and morally turpitudinous law, at any costs. Surely if someone had somehow seized power from Hitler, we wouldn't defend and support them if they continued to fund the death camps, right? How could we?
I myself have broken the law multiple times by helping people evade deportation under the law. Surely our president isn't more spineless and powerless than some loser like me, right?
Congress banned the president from moving prisoners at Guantanamo to the US, which substantially limited the ability of the President to fully close it, since for several, no other country has been willing to accept them.
Defunding ICE requires an act of Congress, and doesn't have full support of even all Democrats.
Stopping the wall building did happen.
The President is there to faithfully execute the laws; unless you want a dictator, he doesn't get to run around breaking them.
So if I looked into this, I wouldn't find that he signed off on any of this, right? His signature of approval isn't on anything involving ICE, the concentration camps, the wall, or Guantanamo. Is that what you're saying?
I don't buy this. See my Hitler/death camp analogy. It doesn't take a dictator to refuse to proceed with blatantly fascist, racist, and genocidal policy.
In fact, he's behaving more like a dictator by continuing to support these things. He's actively oppressing marginalized groups -- that's like a dictator's favorite thing to do.
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Bullshit. Doesn't sound very penitant to me.
Stuff like budgets are big compromise bills with lots of parts. You're going to find his signature on them because he couldn't get anything if he rejected.
Democratic government is messy and full of compromises like this. You can't ever satisfy everybody.
So we live in a system that bolsters genocide, and our only choice is the fascist with less fascism than the fascist fascist?
Literally no better choice? Genocidal policy is just baked in? Wow. What an absolute dogshit system. Sounds like election isn't going to fix this, huh?
Dude, please stop passive aggressively posing these disingenuous questions and just state your criticisms and points plainly. You look like you're here for (trolly) performance art, not discussion.
>You look like you're here for performance art, not discussion.
no one needs to conform to your standards for discussion, and if they don't you don't need to discuss with them.
I said my peace, as any of us here can do, and as you are doing now. Good day.
Biden has:
Continued the mass surveillance of US citizens
Failed to support universal healthcare or offer any plan whereby the most marginalized groups may gain access
Signed off on the continued funding of ICE and the construction of more concentration camps than we had before, even under Trump
Supported the genocidal state of Israel
Failed to address Guantanamo Bay, with its history of human rights abuses, which continue to this day
Sent his VP on a gaslighting mission to Latin America, blaming them for the instability which we historically caused
Detained and deported undocumented immigrants and refugees
Continued to fuel the racist sentiment that we need to "protect our borders"
If you want to argue that for now he is the lesser of two evils, then fair. If you actually defend the man and perceive him as doing some good, you're going to push voters away, because we're not that stupid, and it's an insult to our intelligence to think we are.
For the record, I voted for the fucking horror, but I never anticipated the number of people who would actually defend his bad actions in a creepy and cultlike fashion, all for the sake of a campaign.
So, similar to Biden and his presidency? Let's paint Pride flags on all the concentration camps and call it good, huh?
Edit: You changed your comment to add "trolly." What part of what I'm saying seems like a troll to you? Which statement I've made is so unhinged that you think I'm a troll?
troll: n., A person who cites facts I want to deny
You tell me. I don't see one, do you?
Right, because it's how things work that's the problem. It's a rotten system. Tear it down and try something better, because this clearly doesn't work. You're preaching to the choir!
Oh you were so close. I'm sure someone else will still be willing to talk to you though.
Wow, I did what you asked for, and you still have no real response. I don't blame you though for not wanting to engage. In fact, I respect you more than someone who thinks they have any form of defense for Biden's indefensible words and actions.
Unless I run for office, I'll never see a politician who agrees with me 100% of the time.
This isn't something you can fix with a different system.
Having more than two parties have any actual shot would be a start.
It could improve things, but making that work means changing how elections are run; first past the post makes it well-neigh impossible to create a viable 3rd party.
That's a regressive opinion you've got there.
I bet people said that about monarchy as well. In fact, I'm pretty sure the Loyalists were still saying that in 1776.