News
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
view the rest of the comments
I'd say "about time", but no matter how compelling the evidence, any resolution will be vetoed by the US as usual 🤬
Imma go ahead and put this edit at the top.
Edit: the following legal explanation does not absolve Israel from other war crimes they have definitely committed such as collective punishment. It's just explaining why "genocide" is not an appropriate claim.
Edit over, original post follows.
The problem with the genocide claim is actually laid out by a lawyer in the article. I'm sure this comment will get removed because every time I try to explain this someone reports me.
Genocide is the intentional murdering of a race or ethnic group. Hamas is not an ethnic group, that's the intended target as long as Israel warns or attempts to move civilian populations away from bombing targets it's going to be really hard to prove they are intentionally killing those civilians. Israel has done those measures the entire conflict.
The civilian casualty number could be much higher and not matter to the definition of genocide. Because genocide requires intent, regardless of the number.
For a modern day example of genocide look at Sudan, where people are going door to door shooting members of an ethnic group. That's genocide. The intentional killing of an ethnic group.
Nope. We've had tons of cases of them moving people to "safe areas" and then bombing them.
That doesn't matter in a legal sense.
Okay my dudes. Look. Israel thinks UN court is a kangaroo court, but they're sending a crack team of lawyers. Why? PR. Because they know they'll win and then they can say "we defended our actions in court and won"
Sure, take them to court, but take them to court for things they'd actually lose.
How is telling civilians 'go here for safety' and then dropping bombs on that location not intent?
Or are you saying it's an intentional war crime just not genocide in particular?
Second part
It... uh... Does? It's a pretty strong signal of intent.
Prove it was intentional and not a misfire, a problem with civilians accessing up to date information etc etc. Gaza is very small and very densely populated. You have to prove without a shadow of a doubt intent here. It ain't gonna happen.
Again, you'd be better off taking Israel to court on war crimes you can actually prove. Ones that don't require proving this intent.
Which is why everyone knows that you can't carpet bomb it without genocidal consequences.
They've known this for decades and still they keep doing it. Your bad faith excuses for genocide are more stale than Alexander Fleming's bread.
This right here shows you didn't actually understand what I've been writing.
Nope. Saying "I don't approve of it but it's not genocide" when it's clearly genocide is denying and thereby excusing genocide, no matter how much you scowl at it.