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Trump’s alleged ‘sexual proclivities’ graphically detailed in new Epstein documents
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 08 Jan 2024
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This isn't exactly that, but helpful...
He's demonstrably the actual biggest loser in history, and he just got more loser-y folks... If any of you are starting to have your memories fade, here's a quick refresher to read this morning and then copy and send to your aunt karen in Missouri.
Do you have a list that omits speculation and personal opinion? Got anything with facts and sources listed?
That list feels like a classic Reddit comment, packed with smugness. No one is going to convince their “aunt Karen in Missouri” that Trump is bad using a Facebook-tier list like that.
To answer your question, PoppinKREAM on Reddit often posted detailed comments with sources. Sort by “Top” on his Reddit profile and his fifth comment (as of today) has a much better list.
FTFY
Yeah, I was hoping this place would be a little more accurate in discussion. But it's still the same circlejerk. "Orange man bad" gets all the upvotes, regardless if the comment is true or not.
lemmy.world is a big instance and a lot of the Redditors from the initial migration landed here. But the great thing about Lemmy & the Fediverse is that you don’t have to stick with only one instance. I personally have accounts on lemmy.ml (where I landed after the migration) and beehaw.org (I joined in the early days and fell in love with their community & philosophies). I usually just browse “All” through the Voyager app though, so I can see posts from instances across Lemmy.
Using Lemmy / the Fediverse requires a different mindset than Reddit and other monolith websites: you’re given a lot more power to choose how to engage with the community at large and the Reddit hive mind isn’t nearly as effective. There’s still going to be circlejerks and brigades and all kinds of shenanigans that come with forums, but don’t take the voting system too seriously and you’ll have a much better time.
What specifically is bothering you on the list, friend? Specific points.
There's only 11 Trump associates charged with serious crimes in the last 5 years?
First, I'm not your friend. It would be embarrassing to even be mistakenly associated with you. Second, the things wrong with the list are most of your points are just your opinion or things that have no proof or weight. But it is telling that in order to come up with a sizable list, you eat the need to include superfluous bullshit points. I mean, you really find the number of women he's had kids with troublesome? Or that he has inserts in his shoes. Nevermind the flat out lies in your list. For instance, can you name the multiple officers that were murdered on Jan 6?
It would be good to remove silly things like the lifts in his shoes. Removes credibility from the list for anyone not already against Trump.
With who? The deplorables that live for hate that we'll never persuade? Or us, who have earned a chuckle and his expense?
There is nobody on the fence reading this list. If they are, the jabs aren't going to be the deal breaker.
But this is moot. There are no actual independents. Just self aware ashamed in denial Republicans.
The only work is activating Democrat voters and convincing the left of us that Israel's regime sucks but not having democracy in America doesn't help any situation.
I really hate the "us vs them" bullshit, but it's real. I don't like many of the Democrat policies and am on the progressive side. They suck. But the other side is literal child raping treason Nazis. The fact that I'm saying that with no hyperbole in 2024 is so fucking wild. I wanted the star Trek future with a merit based economy and green alien babes... Not this bullshit.
While there are policies I can get behind, I am in no way considered liberal, progressive or whatever other terms are used. So do you think I am a "literal child raping treasonous Nazi"? If your answer is anything other than no, this is exactly why the country is in the shit and there will never be any actual progress.
If you are a republican, then yes. Because gestures broadly at the Republicans
At least you're honest about completely dismissing those that don't think like you. It's interesting that you demonize a group you don't agree with and then justify it with hyperbole.
Hyperbole? Where've you been, dude?
Remember when republicans keep blocking bans on child marriage?
Or how about when they keep getting caught fucking kids?
Right? I know!
"But whaddabout.... whaddabout.... whaddabout..." When Anthony Weiner got nailed, Dems dropped him faster than Giuliani dropped his pants for an underage reporter. Go ahead ask me - between Gaetz and Wiener, which one is still a congressman? If Trump gets caught up in the Epstein thing, republicans will circle the wagons and deny deny deny. If Bill Clinton gets caught up in it, Dems will demand he goes the fuck to jail. You know... because crime.
Then there's the January 6th thing. That sort of explains itself. Donald Trump and republicans tried to use a violent insurrection and fraudulent electors to overthrow a constitutionally mandated process... so... you know... treason. You're a traitor for supporting it. This one's pretty simple.
Oh right! And the nazi thing. Between the concentration camps, the continued support of white supremacy, the embracing of authoritarian fascism, the overt xenophobia, the book bans (and let's not forget the burnings!) and the continuous use of murderous violence and terroristic death threats... but you know - I'm probably just exaggerating.
Dude - I'm not just riffing. This is objectively true. These are facts. This isn't a just a difference in ideology. If conservatives were actually conservative and not... you know... the rest of that stuff, I'd be down for it. You might not have raped any kids personally, but you sure as shit support people who do. Like... at this point, democrats kinda suck, but repubs are moustache twirling, cartoon evil. It's not even close. The only way that you're still a republican is that you're living under a rock, or you're a child raping traitor nazi. There's no ambiguity anymore.
Child raping traitor nazi is fitting and objectively verifiable. Stop supporting kid fuckers.
No, if something is a little bit shit and some other thing is a lot of shit, that doesn't make the little bit shit any good. It's still shit. If you have ever voted for an incumbent you are responsible for the shit state we're in. Because either they are in on it, or too incompetent to overcome it.
Wait, what? Instead of taking any ownership or introspection of your personal beliefs in the face of OVERWHELMING evidence that you're supporting child raping traitor nazis, your response isn't to reevaluate your support for them, it's to deflect, double down on your support, "nuh uh, no you!", and "both sides are bad"? You called me closed minded? Do you hear yourself?
There are trees out there working real hard to make the oxygen you're wasting. As a great Canadian once said, "yer spare parts, bud"
AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEARTREEEEEE!
Thought stealer!
And now to the tune of "12 Days of Christmas"
"on the 13th day of Christmas, I'm tired of singing!"