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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Let's look at the data, shall we?

  • the top 4 planet heating polluters of 2022 are China, India, the USA and the EU ... responsible for 82% of emission in 2022
  • China may be the biggest emitter overall, but the average American is responsible for nearly twice as much climate pollution as the average person in China Source
  • historically the USA is the top CO² polluter ever, contributing over 400 billion tonnes since 1751 ... more than twice what China has contributed
  • the EU is second to the USA at 300 billion tonnes since 1751 Source
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sure it's always the same discussion with historical pollution. It's cool, nice point, whatever, but we've got to stop warming NOW, not let every country in the world catch up to a couple of centuries of pollution accumulated by developed nations.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Meanwhile the US has hit record oil extraction and natural gas exports this year. Big load of good developed nations are doing.

[–] AA5B 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah that’s gotta stop

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

America knew in the 70's there was going to be problems and did nothing to stop it.

Yelling at other nations who were simply trying to catch up with the standard the US set is pointless.

[–] AA5B 2 points 10 months ago

It’s way too late to say “what about …”. We can’t afford to let the yahoos delay us by saying that and it’s too late to try to defend it in fairness. Really the only fair option is for developed countries to invest in renewable energy worldwide: coal might be cheaper in the short term but let’s help you build out solar