We're closing this thread. Everything that could be said has been said. Thank you
Original Post:
Today, we want to inform everyone that we have decided to defederate from https://exploding-heads.com/. We understand that defederating should always be a last resort, and individuals can certainly block communities. However, blocking alone does not prevent potential harm to vulnerable communities.
After carefully reviewing the instance, reported posts, and multiple comments from the community, we have concluded that exploding-heads is not adhering to the Lemmy or Citizen Code of Conduct. Therefore, we cannot, in good faith, continue to federate with an instance that consistently promotes hate, racism, and bullying.
Examples:
https://lemmy.world/post/577526 - Community Moderator Harassment
https://exploding-heads.com/post/92194 - Systemadmin Post
https://exploding-heads.com/post/90780 - Systemadmin Post
https://exploding-heads.com/post/91488 - Systemadmin Post
https://exploding-heads.com/post/93725 - Community Moderator Post
Again, deciding to defederate from an instance is not taken lightly. In the future, we will continue to review instances on a case-by-case bases.
As for our community, please refrain from posting or commenting with hateful words as well. Arguing back and calling people names is not the solution. The best course of action is to report the posts or comments violating our server rules.
Lemmy Code of Conduct
https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html
Citizen Code of Conduct https://github.com/stumpsyn/policies/blob/master/citizen_code_of_conduct.md
“We are committed to providing a friendly, safe, and welcoming environment for all, regardless of level of experience, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age, religion, nationality, or other similar characteristic.”
This is how you do it. The Code of Conduct is established. Habitually violating the Code leads to defederation. It's simple, and need not be dramatic.
I don't want an echo chamber, but excluding bad actors is not the same thing as excluding differing views and perspectives.
I think it should be dramatic - it's a very serious choice, and it shouldn't be made lightly or quietly. Especially when it's because of social rather than technical reasons
It should be a big deal, and admins should feel the need to answer to the community when they make that choice. It needs to be dramatic, or it'll become too easy
Damn, this is a good take here.
Most of us just came from a site where admin overreach is ruining everything. While I don't think the admins here are going to pull the same thing, there's something to be learned there about how the community deserves a say in the operations.
Why do admins owe anything to anyone? Their server, their time, their money => their rules. End of story.
We gave a right to criticise the actions of admins and say what the best actions would be, lol
Where does your right come from? Who gave it to you?
Me
Their rules, sure. But those rules, as well as decisions pertaining to them, should be clearly communicated to the users so they have a chance to decide whether or not they want to participate in the community.
While it would be nice to have clarity in such matters, it’s not something that’s owed to us (users). I can’t see how it’s normal to join a free website/service and start demanding things and telling admins how things “should be done”. It’s not a public service.
Users are simply guests and can shown the door at any time. Many redditors forgot this aspect.
A real world an analogy sounds like this (IMO). A guy has a house with a front lawn where he installs some benches. He allows people to congregate there. If people are rowdy, he asks them to leave.
If the owner paints the benches red, people can’t demand pink and instead they should go to the house with pink benches. If there are no houses like this, people should either buy a house with pink benches, or accept the rules of the initial owner and remain there.
What's your opinion on the situation going on over at Reddit?
Reddit was a place where people gathered and discussed different topics. Owners made a profit by serving ads, while people/users had a good forum. Win-win
Owners want to make more profit and are changing the site in ways users don’t want. Content creators will slowly leave and content will get stale. In about 2 years, it’ll become similar to quora, more like an archive.
End result: owners are morons who don’t understand how value is created with their product and instead of properly capitalizing on what they have, they’ll drive it to the ground. Or maybe someone else will be left holding the bag after the IPO. Either way, it’s a pity considering how much potential it has(had?).