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‘Front page of the internet’: how social media’s biggest user protest rocked Reddit::A mass user protest six months ago over technical tweaks had big downstream effects, and now the ‘front page of the internet’ is changed for ever

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've been slowly getting back into reddit lately. While I want Lemmy to thrive and will keep contributing to help it do so it's still hardly a replacement for reddit. Compared to it, Lemmy is basically a single moderately active subreddit. If I had to name a type of person Lemmy at its current state is ideal for I'd say a left-wing activist type whose into tech and politics. While that has some overlap with what I'm interested about it still leaves out all my deepest passions and to be honest I feel really uncomfortable knowingly being in such an obvious echo chamber. I'd really wish there was more of the kind of users here that most of you probably dont want. Just to even things out a bit.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (5 children)

My problem with Lemmy is that it seems/ feels empty.

This might be a me-issue, not doing something right but all I see is technology & politics articles.

I’m subscribed to many communities (like multiple anime communities) and I barely to not see them). I quite miss the conversations on Lemmy.

However going back to Reddit seems to be no point either, everyone just repeat what another one said - or just people fighting each other.

For example; saw a Reddit thread about relationships. Everyone just echo-chamber “leave the relationship”. But what happened to adults just communicating to each other? Lol

[–] Tugboater203 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah I know what you mean about the "empty" feeling. Lemmy.world site info on the tab has 2.2k users a day and under 6k a week. Those are miniscule numbers compared to almost anywhere on Reddit.

I too used to post daily here to help generate content but got down voted so badly the thread was deleted, so now I don't post.

Edit- so many communities here are virtually dead. Federation may be a solution but it's a far cry from the user base even a decent sized forum has.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I hope you keep posting again sometime, shit will get downvoted for stupid reasons, I don't blame you though I probably would have stopped too because of my shame lol. Even the best poster will have those posts that get hated too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I didnt participate in the anime polls but remember that moat of it was episode discussions or fan art.
Also remember that the subs there were in the millions with probably high 50-100k posters and remaining lurkers.

[–] cheese_greater 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'll be honest, there was a recent thread bitching about me that got taken down where the dominant complaint seemed to be "The jerk just posts every little thing that pops up in his head, fuck that guy, but ya sometimes he creates some interesting discussion".

It was absolutely pathetic and banal and kinda shows why it doesn't always pay to be contributing and organically creating engagement. I don't post as much anymore cuz I just don't have as much enthusiasm for participating anymore.

Edit: to be fair, one takeaway for me that nobody actually said was I wanted to be way more handsoff in my posts cuz it was a bit much to be as engaged/in the weeds as I was gettting and also, I prefer to let my posts and top-levels + responders to speak for me and I can avoid tampering or influencing the way the discourse plays out as to how the truth-seeking dynamic of it is consequently served

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's ridiculous, messed up, and sad. I'm really sorry that happened and I'm sorry they killed your wonderful enthusiasm. :( That kinda breaks my heart a little. Why do people have to be such needlessly mean turd faces?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This same guy stalks people into other threads to post comments that can only be followed by someone encountering a psychotic break. Had to put a user note on them so I could more easily avoid engaging

So my guess would be it wasn't just that "this guy posts too much" that got on people's nerves

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

And God forbid you're anywhere right of Marx himself or you'll get people telling you you'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.

Like come on, we want 95% of the same stuff, let's just work together and have some productive discussions and enrich our political mindsets instead of flinging shit at people who are basically on the same side as you.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I'd say a left-wing activist type

Which is cringe inducing in looking for certain types of left-wingers. There are more tankies here than in other Internet forums I have seen. I'd be rich for penny I get for meeting tankies in Lemmy. They call out American imperialism, but then simp for Russia and China. Two wrongs don't make a right and they expect to have one but not the other. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if Russian bots have also infiltrated Lemmy to sow disinformation.

whose into tech

Doesn't sound different from the early days of Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I see way more comments complaining about tankies on a regular basis than actual tankies

[–] BeMoreCareful 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Americans are pretty right leaning. So anything leftish is unfamiliar. I think tankie has become an all encompassing term for anything left of "normal", or unfamiliar.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Ehh once you see it you can spot the Tankie arguments pretty fast. Usually it starts as some sort of nitpick or factual correction regarding Russia, China, or another country in their sphere of influence, then some overarching opinion that sounds okay on the surface but the moment you put more than a few seconds of thought in you realize its wrong, sprinkle in some vague and slightly conspiratorial-sounding references to not falling for propaganda, then usually it devolves into pointing out something bad the US has done as a false equivalency while conveniently avoiding the finer points on why it's a false equivalency. Oh and they never mention the Nazis because their arguments so frequently are perfect arguments to also defend the Nazis, but they at least know it's a bad look to align with Nazis.

Personally I will call out racism/apologism/transphobia with a 2 reply limit then block, because I do not want that to be normalized, but also people posting such comments tend to be trolls who enjoy arguing in bad faith. I did also block the entire hexbear instance on my account (it's an option the settings now!) because that's not just random redfacists but an echo chamber for redfacists to continuously reinforce their beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is your defederated from hexbear and lemmy grad? They're all pretty concentrated there

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

blahaj lemmy is indeed defederated from hexbear, idk about lemmygrad

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I agree. The apologia for Russia, China and just communism in general (or what ever you want to call it) fucks with your mind a bit. If Lemmy is the only social media you use it quickly starts to seem like this kind of thinking is far more common than what it really is and it can make one question their own sanity when reasonable sounding critizism of this is met with huge flood of downvotes. Especially if the discussion is happening on a place like lemmy.ml. As an outside observer I find it interesting as I haven't really met people like this before but trying to engage with them is one of the most frustrating things I've experienced especially since a mod is going to ban you mid-discussion for "misinformation and bigotry" or something similar while it's clear to everyone it's just CCP level cencorship to silence all dissidence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, some instances turned to be haven for these tankies. It took me a while before I realised that lemmy.ml is pretty much run by them.