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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Because there’s a massive homeless crisis in downtown LA and people need food, not to be forced to commute into the most congested area of the city to stare at hungry people. So maybe they should make food there too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure anyone is starving because of a shortage of food. It's not 1980s Ethiopia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Right and people starve due to political and logistical reasons now. The politics are “this space is for office work” and the logistical ones are where we fail to account for how people actually live.

[–] AA5B 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You don’t fix problems of food distribution or food cost, just by making production more local, especially if you’re also making production more expensive

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, not “just by”, but lack of production capacity is a huge contributor to food deserts like downtown LA.

[–] AA5B 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I was just at my grocery store yesterday, looking at all the amazing and reasonably priced food choices from around the world, and I really find that hard to believe. When I go to a farmers market, I see things for double or triple the cost of grocery store produce because local farmers already can’t compete on price. What’s unique about LA that it can’t have cheap potatoes from Idaho, cheap lettuce from California, cheap oranges from Florida, cheap bananas from Nicaragua, etc? How has anyone come to the conclusion that using the most expensive land for farming, and spending hundreds of millions on a verticals infrastructure, will ever be sustainable, much less cheaper?

Where there are grocery stores, do you not have these things? Isn’t the problem more that a food desert does t have a grocery store?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It’s because people (large capital) have decided that the area is to be used for business, not for living, despite the fact that lots of people live (and suffer) there. There are a couple of grocery stores in downtown LA, but they’re inadequate to address the general societal collapse that has been Skid Row for the last 40+ years. Food deserts exist despite the fact that there are plentiful options elsewhere. That’s why they’re deserts. It’s entirely social.